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Raptors vs. Nuggets: Let's make it 6 in a row ... (7pm MST)

Toronto Raptors at Denver Nuggets, Jan 27, 2012 7:00 PM MST


We welcome back Gary Forbes tonight. If he gets any playing time, of course.

Chris Young - AP

We welcome back Gary Forbes tonight. If he gets any playing time, of course.

Don't let the Raptors two consecutive Western Conference road wins fool you. With the Raptors best player Andrea Bargnani re-aggravating his strained left calf, even a depleted Nuggets team should take down the dinos in Denver tonight.

Star-divide

Game: 19

Records:
Denver:
13-5 (6-2 at home)
Streak: Won 5
Toronto: 6-13 (4-8 on the road)
Streak: Won 2

Injuries:
Denver
: Rudy Fernandez (right Achilles strain) is a game-time decision. Arron Afflalo (groin strain) and Ty Lawson (left ankle sprain) are day-to-day and are doubtful. DeMarre Carroll (left hamstring strain) is also day-to-day and a game-time decision.
Toronto: Andrea Bargnani (strained left calf) is out.

Television: Altitude TV

Season Series: 0-0

Opposition's Take: Raptors HQ

When you reside in the NBA's basement things just don't seem to break your way. Such is the case of the Toronto Raptors. Having lost eight straight games, this week the Raptors welcomed back power forward (and Italian country mate of the Nuggets' Danilo Gallinari) Andrea Bargnani and reeled off two impressive road victories on back-to-back nights, beating Steve Nash's Suns on Tuesday and the Jazz in double overtime on Wednesday.

But with 1:05 remaining in the first overtime of the Jazz game, Bargnani re-aggravated his strained left calf injury and it's uncertain as to when he'll play again. With Bargnani this season, the Raptors are surprisingly mediocre at 6-7. Without him, they are a dreadful 0-6.

Let's hope our Nuggets make that 0-7 after tonight's game is over.

In recent seasons, the Raptors have been one of those teams that the Nuggets have absolutely feasted upon. Over the previous six seasons, the Nuggets are 13-1 against Toronto with an average margin of victory of 14.6 points. When the Raptors made their lone trip to Denver last season, the Nuggets beat them by 33 points, and it wasn't even that close (to be fair, the Raptors were coming off a back-to-back in Oklahoma City where they almost won the game).

Of concern entering Friday's contest with Toronto shouldn't be Bargnani's injury, but rather our own litany of ailments. The Nuggets could be missing Ty Lawson, Arron Afflalo and Rudy Fernandez tonight due to an assortment of injuries, meaning ample playing time could be given to rookie Julyan Stone, backup shooting guard Corey Brewer and even rookies Kenneth Faried and Jordan Hamilton depending on how the game shakes out.

The most serious injury, of course, is Lawson's - as he sets the pace for the game and Nuggets head coach George Karl trusts his diminutive point guard to constantly push the ball quickly up the court. Veteran backup point guard Andre Miller has been playing well for Denver, but he simply doesn't - and cannot - push the ball like Lawson does, taking away the Nuggets key advantage against crappy Eastern Conference teams that don't like to run (such as the Raptors, who average an NBA second-worst 87.5 points per game). And I doubt Karl is ready to give Stone the keys to the car, so to speak. So if Lawson indeed sits, look for the Nuggets to play a more controlled game and just hope that the Raptors are so bad without Bargnani that the Nuggets will win anyway.

On a side note, tonight's game will feature three lucky Denver Stiffs readers who won a pair of tickets at last weekend's Stiffs Night Out party to sit three rows behind the Nuggets bench. Nate, Jeff and I will all be at the game, too, with Nate and Jeff sitting with Mile High Fan's Vicki and Russ right outside the Nuggets tunnel and I'll be sitting about six rows up behind Nuggets announcers Scott Hastings and Chris Marlowe. For all the other Stiffs in attendance tonight, let's try to gather at the tunnel heading to Blue Sky Grill at halftime for a family photo!

Scouting the Raptors

Raptors Non-Stiffs

Andrea Bargnani: The stats speak for themselves. The Raptors are 6-7 with Bargnani and 0-6 without him.

Jose Calderon: Fernandez's fellow Spaniard, Calderon is having another solid season by averaging 10.6 ppg, 8.7 apg and shooting 93% from the free throw line.

Anthony Carter: "AC" makes his return to Denver tonight and the mere fact that this undersized, under-talented, 36-year-old point guard is still pulling a paycheck in the NBA makes him a non-Stiff to me!

Raptors Stiffs

Linas Kleiza: Kleiza, the former Nugget, is having a Stiff-like season. His field goal percentage has sunk to a career-low 37.5% and his minutes are way down, too. Although he did come up big against the Jazz in double overtime on Wednesday with 25 points, reminding us why Kleiza (who once scored 41 points in a Nuggets uniform) is always dangerous.

Gary Forbes: How many so-so shooting guards have we seen thrive in Denver under coach Karl only to disappear when they play somewhere else (a la Dahntay Jones)? Forbes, a terrific story last season when he made the Nuggets roster, can't find his place in Toronto ... or his shot. He's "shooting" 34% from the field and his minutes are erratic.

Final Thought

The Raptors aren't that good with Bargnani but without him, they're awful. So if ever there was a time for the Nuggets to rest some key players with injuries and still pick up a victory, it's tonight. It's pulling off wins like this that could be the difference between home court advantage or not come playoff time.

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Comments

Raptors have been overachieving

Denver’s got this.

Hey Fly, you might cringe at this article

http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/chicken-nuggets-how-bad-are-they

I once ate 47 chicken nuggets in a sitting

My girlfriend took the other three, otherwise I would’ve packed those away, too. I think I took a few years off my life that day. That article must be making the rounds b/c a friend emailed the same link to me.

well, its probably more the not having fruits, vegetables, and grains in the diet

eating only one food all the time without the other stuff generally not good at any time.

Time for Smash Mouth B-ball

Gallo, Nene, Moz this is your game. Make it a layup drill. The post’s Dempsey says AAA is going to try and give it a go.

We will see if the coaching staff lets him do it. I am torn, I know everyone wants to rest against “weak” opponents. But no win is guaranteed and it is nice to have as many options available as you can.

Glad I don’t coach….

AC=Perpetual Stiff
Great Website...

I appreciate all the insightful thought that goes into your game preview. As a Denver transplant living in the desert, you are my one-stop-shop for all things Nuggets! Great work guys.

DP quotes Karl that Rudy and AAA will play tonight...

…and goes on to say he is a bit worried about playing them. Also says he wants Rudy to play some PG over Stone. I just don’t like this decision at all. Not in the least. Not a bit. Not one little bit. Not one iota. We need Rudy and AAA healthy this season, not fighting lingering injuries. We can beat Toronto..why risk set backs to Rudy or AAA. Did I mention I don’t like this idea?

I agree that they should sit

But if they are healthy, then the sooner they get the rust off, the better.

I just know groins and achillieses and all that are not easy injuries to come back from. See Rudy playing in Washington.

I want these guys healthy for the playoffs.

GK just

Saying he just has to watch’em close and see if they are lying. Players want to play and push it. Which is good. Having a bunch of gamers is a good thing.

AAA has developed a reputation of being too hungry to return from injury

and re-tweaking whatever it is that ails him. I hope that trend doesn’t continue.

while you might like this idea I have to disagree with you.

I don’t like it.

“Day-to-day? We’re all day-to-day!” -Keith Olbermann

I dunno

I like to skip days sometimes

Did G. Forbes thrive in Denver?

Seems like the description of him in Toronto matches the description of him here…maybe with a slightly better shooting % in Denver. I know, I know..he was pretty good and I liked him…but still.

FYI – if you have not had a chance to watch “The Association”, you should, it is great. Although, the return of Nene got big time and the return of AAA didn’t get any…I assume this is an editing issue.

Can’t wait to see how the next episode plays out with the Nugs going to NY. I wonder who wins?

Or it will be addressed in the next episode?
Nah, they are well into the season

All the suspense was about Nene’s return and AAA’s return didn’t even get a mention

There was little interest shown in AAA

Unlike Nene, who was talking to Houston, New Jersey and who knows who else.

AAA is great. I’m a fan. But Nene is a much greater piece.

not a lot of suspense w/ AAA's resigning

Nene was really in doubt. There was no media attention to AAA since it seemed to be a forgone conclusion that Denver would match any offers. Maybe in the first episode the editors said, “well we have enough time to put in a blurb, or we can squeeze in a completely out-of-context shot of rudy/manimal oop. Yeah, let’s put manimal in.”

Not a lot of suspense maybe

but a lot of twitter stalking

True...on both accounts
Also, sucks about Bargnani

It would have been cool to see the Italians go one on one.

yeah

they’ve had a couple of in your face meetings

I doubt AAA and Rudy are getting more than a few minutes

also Moz is back yes? Hope he has a good game for his new child.

Be funny if he has a stain on the shoulder of his uni from

urrrped up breast milk.

Why would he be wearing his jersey at home?

I mean he is Russian and in Soviet Russia uniform wears you, but still peculiar.

Might be the only shirt he can find that fits

He is over 7 foot.

love the Yakov Smirnoff humor
i took moz out of my draftstreet team

cuz i was worried he’d be too tired from a new baby in the house. he’ll probably prove me wrong and go for a triple double.

Moz is gonna be riding high and feeling great. I have an 8 month old right now and love it.
i have 3 kids under 7 yrs

first 3 months of each were exhausting

I have 3 under 5 right now

exhausting yes, but becoming a father for the first time is so terrific that I think he’ll be super-stoked to have been able to show off his pics to his teammates and play his heart out for his family. At least that’s how i’d feel.

the exhaustion sets in later. and heck, having only one is so easy (though this is understood only in retrospect)

love my kid

didnt love being a zombie for 1 year

Ouch. I know a couple trying to adopt

so they are fostering kids. The first month they were in the program a newborn and a pair of two year old twin girls were placed with them. Instafamily.

a very good point Nugz

hope they have some help and screw the importance of father bonding. Hey we’ve got some games to win here!

Toronto Raptors fan here

I have been following this blog a lot this season as the Nuggets have become one of my favorite teams to watch (Thanks League pass!).I can see a loss for the Raptors here tonight. No Bargs=no offense. Though, we do like to take advantage of key injuries, like you guys have.

Side note: While losing Bargs is obviously a huge letdown, I will also point out that part of the reason the Raptors have been terrible was the loss of Bayless as our back-up point guard. His tempo really improves the Raps offense, and keeps the likes of Carter and Forbes off the floor. Forbes was actually acting as our backup PG for 5 or so games when we finally gave up on Carter. Now that he has been back, our second unit is much better.

Good Luck tonight, and I look forward to watching a lot more of Denver this season. I already have my tickets for when the Nuggets visit Toronto this season.

I'm always surprised that are basketball fans in Toronto

I used to live in Canada, at when I talked about basketball people would get funny looks on their face, like they were suppressing the urge to check me into the boards really hard.

Thanks for stopping by. I hope the Raptors get healthier this season so they can beat the Knicks some more.

Listening to Denver sports talk radio

You might be surprised that there are any other teams in Denver aside from the Broncos…or players other than Tebow.

I know, right?

Always drives me crazy.

Especially now. No more football, save one dumb game next weekend, and the still find every conceivable Broncos angle.

“This just in… Tim Tebow WILL NOT play in the Pro Bowl. I repeat, will not.” Why is that news? Did any one really think he had a chance?

Yes, but there is an NFL draft to cover....endlessly.
And the Peytondrama

OK. That doesn’t quite have the same ring.

Plenty of drama at Peyton Place though :)
104.3

Listening last night, I heard more argument on Tebow…

“Will he start next year?”
“Yes, they said he will.”
“But you can’t honestly believe that.”
“Why would they say that then?”
“But there’s no way he can start next year.”

AD INFINITUM

I feel for Elway

but he knew what he was in for when he took the job.

Hell yeah, beats my day job

It’s maddening how this cycle of fan irrationality feeds media hype feeds more fan irrationality feeds more media hype… to the point we are now.

One player, while the NFL was working out its version of the CBA, said there would be riots in the streets if the NFL didn’t have a season. Sadly, I believe he would have been right.

stupid radio needs to get over that

The people in Denver need to understand that they have a winner in the nuggets. People don’t understand what they have until it is too late. WAKE UP DENVER!!!! Support the nuggets, you can live one day without hearing some boring news about the Broncos.

Depends where you lived

In Toronto, we obviously have the Leafs which are the big ticket, but the raptors still get great crowds. Last friday we had a game against the Blazers ( a good team, but not considered a draw) and there were 17,500. Considering the matchup, and the fact that the raptors are awful this season, that is a pretty good crowd. I look around the NBA and see much worse. We take pride in our team here (even though we dont have much to be proud about. Yay Atlantic division Champs banner) and we are happy to support them.

No its time to sit back, lose and see who we get in this stellar draft this season.

Good to hear your city is so supportive

You have some good character guys in Forbes and AC. AC is hated on around here, but he seems like a solid person and good teammate. I really liked Forbes when he was here. He also strikes me as a good character guy with some upside, so it was good to see him go somewhere to make a little more money while he can.

I don't know if AC was hated on, but we had a good time ragging on him

he’s like, totally rec league.

I thought a lot more of him as a person after reading this

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7787960o

His early life story, following his dream on a tough road into the league, etc. It’s easy to forget where some of these guys come from and what they overcame to make it to the top of the sport, against all odds.

I don't think AC was hated on

just the position he was put in, remember the all star back court we were sporting with Iverson and AC?

Thanks for stopping by

I’ve been wishing good things for the Raptors this year with the hiring of Dwane Casey. He’s a guy who has deserved another chance for a while, and I’m betting he’ll be great for your team. And good point about Bayless, who’s another key talent for Toronto. Lot’s of talent there, needless to say. Here’s hoping the injury bug will soon move along to some other city.

I'm so happy AC is not on the nuggets!

That is all

x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2llU0ZqMr7A

Oh, what could have been without that stolen inbounds pass
Ugh, why was AC in the game again?
Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaarl! (in William Shatner's voice)
wait what are talking about? what pass? when was this? how much did he screw up?

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!

It still hurts, man, it still hurts....so much.....
Good story by Sam Amick on GK

It’s probably already been posted on here somewhere, but in case you missed it:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/01/26/denver.nuggets/index.html?eref=twitter_feed

Even if Stone could push the pace for Denver

he would probably turn the ball over a lot. Miller is still a quality starting point guard, no matter if his style of play is different from Lawson, he is still a quality half-court playmaker and his passes up the court are easily the best on the team. That is the advantage of having someone like Miller on your team.

Miller didn't seem to have much trouble getting the ball out on the break against Sacto
he got intercepted by Jimmer
I believe

Nuggets are undefeated this season when Andrew does the preview?

To stay positive, the silver lining if Lawson is out for a few games is that the team will work on half court offense. Could benefit them in the long run.

This is getting out of hand

Kevin Love just signed a four year extension, with a player opt out on the fourth year.

"Yeah, early-termination option after the third year is definitely keeping my options open," Love said. "I want to see where this team is gonna head. I want to continue for us to keep getting better. I feel that we are and that we will get better.

So now Minny gets “Love-Drama” starting on the day he signs his deal.

I don't see how this is "Love-Drama"

He’s talking about 3 years down the line, and that organization is ridiculously messed up.

It’s more like “I ain’t gonna be held prisoner by KAAAAAAAAAHN” than “I want to go to a bigger market”.

It's Kahn that caused the drama

The Timberwolves wouldn’t give Love a five-year deal. He’s just taking care of himself, right? If I were a GM with a player who snags 14 or 15 rebounds a night along with scoring 20, some of it with a lovely three-point stroke, I’d give him five years and max money. But I’m just a carping fan.

Hi KFH

Can you imagine if Denver had three years of Melo keeping his options open? If Love had just said he was happy to get the contract and excited to be staying in Minnesota, then everyone is happy. Now the fans in Minnesota will get treated to the media parceing every word and move both he and the team makes, looking for indications that he will demand a trade.

*parsing
You were about to get Thursty'd!

Yeah, Love didn’t have to say that stuff, but Kahn didn’t have to be a dick, either. Love was asked about it, and he answered. And mostly with positives about his team. But yeah, it’ll be too much of a distraction for a team that needs anything but.

Do you have League Pass? I’ve gotten to see Minnesota a few times already this season, and they are having much fun and quite a bit of success with Rubio roaming the court. He often finds Love camped out beyond the line, and pop. Ridnour is having a resurgence, as well. And of course Adelman is on the job and making them much more accountable. I hope their improvement continues throughout this year; who knows what next year could be like for them? And they may try to move Beasley along.

I don't have league pass

since I get the Nuggets on altitude. Especially this year, with the games so close together, I don’t watch many other teams. Closer to the playoffs I might watch some potential matchups.

Oh, and read this. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46160046/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/#.TyMPE4EuhOw

I’ve started enough stuff here today, so I’ll just say don’t click on it if you don’t want to be angry.

I'll try that again

Third time is the charm?

Link

Hey

At Least Love is honest about wanting to test the market for higher grounds, Oklahoma City won’t know what happened when Durant suddenly feels the urge to want to be traded to the Lakers after his contract is up.

I can take the bad news

Sometimes. This story is all over the place. (She is darling cute, eh?) It’s almost quaint that she believes (and that some judges are still willing to rule) there is an actual principle of government neutrality in religion. It’s technically true, sure, but come on, we live in a Judeo-Christian society. And don’t forget that I grew up in Mississippi. I’ve seen these battles play out again and again.

I am hopeful

that this is the next issue that gets addressed nationally and it will be safe for people like this girl to “come out of the closet” for lack of a better term. About 10 years ago I was having a conversation with a guy about racism, and how much things had improved. He asked me what I thought what would be the next big issue like that, and I told him gay marriage. He got very upset and angry and told me that would never happen. They’ve got a case going in court now that I think will result in it being made legal in the entire country.

OT: I didn't realize we're on TNT and ESPN back-to-back next week.

Should be fun.

Denver needs this game

We have a fairly mediocre home record (by the Nuggets standards) to this point in the season. Karl is more than likely considering playing Afflalo and Fernandez because we really can’t afford to drop more than 3-4 games at home if we possible hope to secure a top seed in the West.

I hope they are good enough to go and this doesn’t set back their recovery.

ill be there.

ill be the guy watching a gang of blog nerds taking a picture.

;)

It's time..

love how

“directed by Kiki Vanderweghe” is slyly tossed in there

lol @ The Circus moustache on AC
GGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NUGGGGGGETTTTTSSSS!!!!!
How many minutes does Corey brewer play tonight?
depends on how many out of control drives he has
How is DeRozan not mentioned?

That kid is good…better hope he doesn’t get hot

+1

Really came on at the end of last year iirc. Just the type of player I really like.

scrapping the bottom of my photoshop bucket here...

That's oddly....

arousing…

I'm worried about you :p
she likes dudes with money

Nothing strange here.

Wouldn't you be more worried

if I didn’t….it’s not about the money…

Kleiza's head on that body?

just sayin’

Well it's kind of the whole package
hehe...

you said package :p

So what's for Dinner?

I just finished a Buffalo burger I grilled with some fries

late lunch=cobb salad
I made some

italian chicken stir fry kind of thing with olive oil, italian seasoning, asparagus, tomato
and garlice fries..lol

come cook for me?
Okay

send the travel money

leftover dominos pizza
Some hot pockets lol.
lol I had pizza rolls for dinner the other day

don’t feel bad hahaha

*high-five*

hahaha

here lol

You must post this at PR
Except remove one finger
I was this close to the saddest tostadas ever

tostada shell and cheese…

And then I remembered I had thawed a chicken breast.

sardines

and pork and beans

Predictions for tonight

Nuggets go to 14-5 on the season,
Miller goes to 4-0 as a starter,
he collects his 4th double double of the season as a starter,
and passes Terry Porter for 12th all time in career assists…

Man, watching Steve Novak and Mike Bibby

on the court for the Knicks is pretty funny.

I remember some Stiffs wanting him a few years back after his stint with the Clippers I believe. We needed some long range shooting.

OT: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRONCOS HIRED JACK DEL RIO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who?
Sounds kinda Jacksonvilley.
And for what position?
Jack Del Rio former Jags HC

Great def coordinator! Him and Fox in Carolina made their defense the 2nd best in the NFL

Cool beans. Thanks!
Seriously?

I’m pretty happy with that.

wow that was fast
wait I can't find anything.

source?

heh
ESPN
Well until the post verifies it...
sorry, I was busy looking at my fantasy team on draftsheet
adam shefter just tweeted it.

It legitimate now

AWESOME FUCKING HIRE!!!!!!

Dude gonna make us a mean fucking defense!

Go Tebow!!!

What happened to the other guy?
Oakland Hired Dennis Allen.
That made me very very sad.
same, BUT IM PUMPED NOW
Definitely a solid hire.

My 2nd choice for my Saints DC position if we hadn’t gotten Spags.

Oh my gosh. I just realized this is my cousins stiffs account

This is United Nugget Nations.
How come it wont log out?!?!

you're doing it wrong?

seriously, I dunno

I keep hitting logout, but nothing happens...
close your browser
And clear your cache and try again
Clear your cache?
restart your computer

that happens to me when I try to log out of yahoo or sb nation and restarting then logging out always fixes it

He shouldn't have to reboot though

clearing the cache and closing the browser should be enough

Just troll using his username

until you get banned then you’ll be able to login…

WOO I THINK IT WORKED!

THANKS STIFFS!

You're welcome
What up Stiffs?

Go Nugs!

Who let you in?

I mean…Oh HAI

I slipped the bouncer a Jackson.
Anyone on first row watching lax?
not by choice
haha mine either, I read an article on stumble somewhere don't know if it was legit, but NCAA said most drug offenses in college were from lax players haha
I'm personally opposed to the existence of lax
i'm watching it

close game

commentator said game would be on right after...

if you missed that

there's 5 mins left on the lax game

might as well go eat real quick.

I thought LAX?

Who wants to watch the airport. But LaCrosse is awesome

haha I always think that too
Lol.

But…the LA airport is just so interesting….

Toronto vs Rochester 9-9 4:23 left
Miami vs. NY

Can I root for them both to lost?

Are you from the future?
I suppose they could both get lost on the way home or something.
meteor meteor

please god make it rain

I suppose you could root for NY

The Fans would see NY beating the Heat without Melo and demand NY trading Melo to Siberia for some draft picks

I'll take the Knicks
Well of course

You are all mature and stuff

my Knicks Fan coworker just said that maybe they should TRADE MELO

Cuz they’re beating the Heat without him! LoL

Fat tires for everyone tonight!
hooray for New Belgium!
Wish I lived closer then I could go to SNO and Fort Collins
Yum. I'll take an Amber Ale.
Follow your folly right
If the Nuggets lose

I’ll have to put “I would love to lick all of Al Harringtons sweat on his shiny head” for a week.

Part of me is rooting for this outcome
wait what?

Why would you have to turtlewax him?

because I have to suck up to him all year now

and I had a bet with a Raptors fan, 5 dollars over having to put that phrase in my signature line.

How is this supposed to actually happen?
Raptors win, I put that in my signature

Nuggets win, he owes me 5 bucks.

Oh I thought you were going to actually have to do

which I found profoundly interesting

Ugh

My roommate chose now to decide to play some xbox. I don’t mind because he’ll only be playing for a little while before he heads out, but now I miss the beginning of the game. :9

sportlemon

actually has the nuggs feed instead of lax in case anyone is wondering

so does link 2 on

firstrow

heres another decent place to stream

stream2watch…. just google it.

Toronto guy has a boston accent sounds like sorta
That's unfortunate.
haha yeah

kinda wierd

Where can I pahk my cah eh
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TEAMWORK!
Just emulating our boys
Game time baby WHOO!
I thought we were wearing throwbacks

I am disappoint :(

Kinda slow start on offense
Hey, Moz got a haircut
He just had a baby. Leave him alone
And by he I mean his wife
Glad you clarified that...

talk about time on the DL

Came with the baby
Finally spent long enough time with the Wife

that made him get a haircut…

Ask me how I know

Your '74 Ford Gremlin Keys to the Game

1. Play with lots of energy on defense right out of the gate
2. Don’t let them get hot shooting in the 1st quarter
3. Don’t let them score 30+ points in the 1st quarter
4. Don’t be down by 10 points at the end of the 1st quarter to a bad team

Those are your ’74 Ford Gremlin Keys to the Game.

And... AAA needs to shake off that rust.
good call

and thanks for adding to this, I was afraid it was going to be lost forever to the winds of Stiffs unread posts

I predict Moz getting 10+ boards tonight.
He should be able to with all the missed shots :P
theyre really trying to punish the inside.
MOZGOD! BLOCKAGE!
too bad lawson is hurt.

he could seriously burn the raptors with his speed

get that weak shit out of here.
Why? Why make me miss Kmart more than I do :(
I guess 92 points in the paint wasn't enough last game
Damn Nene. Show em who's boss.
Dear Lord, NENE!!!
Think GK might start shouting at kleiza again? just for old times sake
wow slow whistle on the charge
This team is so much happier this year

the camaraderie is infectious

Did stern push the button already?
help?

i have a really great picture for everyone but i don’t understand how to post it. i am not that great w/ computers.

there's a picture of a tree on the message section

paste the image url there

theres an icon right above the bigger, lower box in your comment box

that has a picture of a tree on it. click that button and copy and paste the url (http/www.etc…) into the box

Make sure you have it on an outside hosting site

like photobucket or imgur otherwise it’s leaching bandwith

Kleiza is shooting...

poorly

But man he looks good while doing it...
tHAR was hurt with his departure
how did kleiza go for 25 last night
Broad side of a barn, AAA

Water falling out of a boat

etc. etc.

love the bird's-eye view of Nene's headband flying off

as he soars in for that dunk

I laughed at that
I think the other night hastings said of brewer couldn't throw a pea in the sea
I thought he said

he couldn’t pee in the sea

something like that ahaha
pea in the sea just doesnt make sense.
AAA rusty not so good
he'll get there
That's stupid

He’s had more than enough time.

Whoa there man

no need to call anyone stupid

havent practiced with the team..
Nene abusing Gray
Nene has more post moves than he gets credit for
Remember when we thought Aaron Gray would be valuable...

This was like 2-3 years ago

Who?
He was a never used Center that the Bulls drafted I think

He’s just a big stiff

I was just thinking about that

I realized Mozgov brings everything he brings with more athleticism, upside, skill, court vision, and shooting touch.

Obviously, though, there are comparisons.

over/under Toronto scores 10+ points this quarter?
$600 on under

if I were a gambling man

Anyone know of this gray who is guarding him?
didn't he

used to play for the bees?

Who?
Hornets
oh bees / bugs shoulda gotten that one
Could be a monster night for Nene
Moz go to Gallo's barber?

looks good

In Russia, barber goes to you.
please

that would imply he actually showed up to work in a socialist country…

In socialist country, work shows up to you!
Mozzy for All star game?!
Great cut by Moz!

I think his teammates are gaining confidence in him and passing to him more, which makes him more active.

Moz with a cut to the basket
Man moz is fast for a big guy.
For sure

Karl likes fast big guys.

GALLO SLAM!!!!
Moz with the bucket

and he must have borrowed Gallo’s produckt

Boy...Nugs best step up the defense...a little to close.
16-2!

Holy shitballs!

MANIMAL might come earlier
TW....oh never mind
that's our girl
lol my old roommate always used to say that

BUT YEAH! Damn…as I type this 16 -4 :(

hey zeus chris toes
Wow, when they say its hard to score without your leading scorer

I wasn’t expecting it to be a literal analogy.

So does Melo still have his barbershop in LoDo?

Maybe that’s where Moz and Gallo get their hair cut

LOL, One made basket for the game for the Raptors...

I feel like I should feel sorry for them.

I know what you mean
Wait...they scored?
Toronto commentator Andre Milllllaaaaaaaaa

Boston people haha

man

are they gonna make the Raptors suffer through 48 minutes of this?

the raptors really are just a jump shooting team

they need drive to the basket more

I wish Bird would rock the hawk again...
he was never the same after he got rid of it
Yeah what's with that?
Hair gel got too expensive.
I remember last year when he retired the hawk on road games
Well, it needs to have it for home games

It ain’t right!!!!!

gallo's a beast
He's one big Rooster he is
With Steve Hess as our trainer, and Karl running them ragged,

this team is going to be the fittest team in the league.

or the deadest
we might already be
Dre!!!!!!!! with a bucket
love that no jump scoop shot by dre.
8 points???

clamp down already nugs!

Am I the only one when hearing the name

Barbosa, thinks he should have a parrot, a pegleg and an eyepatch?

Or a monkey on his shoulder
Sweet pirate dreads too. With metal rings, beads, and gold coins hanging from them.

But yes.

Barbosa didn't have dreads did he?
His first name is my middle name
oh noes just a 10 point lead TRADE EVERYONE!!!
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy!!!!
Is that a Kaiser Chiefs reference?
More a Clark Gable Reference

at least in my head :p

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
OMG!!! DRE!!!!!
MILLERTIME!
HOLY MFing

OH MY GOD
DRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
that was a pure fucking swish
Dre is on my fantasy team for draftstreet:)
do they give bonus points

for half court shots?

THAT WAS SOO CASUAL SO NONCHALANT
Just like the shot he hit last week
finding his range
HAHAHA

-Boston accent

hip hip hooray

knicks losing

checked that game out earlier when the knicks were up by 5

and all i could think off was that the knicks will lose

Just remembered.

We have the winners from SNO watching the game

Yeah - hi guys!

(if you read this when you get back from the game, haha)

Do you think Orlando would trade Dwight Howard for Birdman and 'cash considerations

if Bird promised to wear up a 2’ blue mohawk every game?

Well he'd be in Florida

and he has been stork like….

if was masai got that through

we MUST make a golden statue of him outside the can

Man, Miller has really been working on his 3 point stroke.
His circus three point stroke
Miller

is awesome, so are the nuggs !

We re gonna kill those suckers

Andre Millaaaa: half courter.... I got this
RUDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn, Rudy...nice post move
OT: You know what sucks

When your contact lens rolls up under your eyelid

BBL.

that does suck
Whats the blue headbands for?
Is it for ty since he's missing the game?
stupid bird. hold on to the god damned ball
Settle down man

off his foot

thats denvuh nugget basketball right theeuh.
announcer called Rudy

a “swashbuckling” player

I think thats about right a least his hair style
Give him a sabre and a pirate mustache dammit!
Can we call rudy "The Spanish Armada" ?
Armada implies quite a few...ships
Rudy is his own armada
the CONQUISTADOR?
he's got an armada

of 3 point shots!

Buckets with the post moves
could have been good time to give stone 3-5min of pg run
Okay vision crisis averted whew
contacts suck
Well I like them because I like

seeing things

dove e gallo?

È tempo di portare lo

Resting, sir...just resting
You know what's funny?

This team as hard or harder than the 06’-09’ “Thuggets” and plays decidedly better defense. Without ANY of the dirty plays *cough*reggieevans*cough* *cough*DahntayJones*cough*

I do miss my Thuggets, but this team is probably more fun.

I dunno. 09 was the most fun I've ever had watching the Nuggets

barring this season outcome

Me too so far, but I feel like this season is building to something

That ‘09 season was actually really fun. This season has a similar kind of energy though. Remember Melo’s dunk at the beginning of ’09 season against the Jazz?

man, orlando needs a real point guard in the worst way!!
they should trade for D will
can u imagine andre feeding howard?
Yes , yes I can....
Birdblock!!!
kakaww kaw
I swear by all things in the universe

I said that in my head

I wonder if Gallo hasn't had success at beyond the arch

Because he is stronger than last year. Gaining muscle can really affect the way you shoot the ball.

real interesting idea ya got

right there

why would you leave rudy wide open?
Well don't tell them!!
I really wish Bird wasn't so terrible at man-to-man defense

His blocks could really be game-changers again.

Nice block Bird
he should catch that
Damn Rudy

You might win me over yet….

Beautiful Give n Go,

Brewer and Rudy

Remember when everyone here hated Rudy?
See my post above
So we should start loving him all of a sudden?
Yes

He’s a quality player, even if his touch isn’t on.

Any other questions?

You are kind of confrontational tonight

what up?

It's a good thing I don't listen to what you think I should do.
That was worded really well.
Thanks.
You're welcome.

Time to turn off the TV and hit the books a little harder, eh?

Right after you turn off your TV and learn some respect.
This is getting kind of mean guys...

You’re ruining basketball night!

he pretty much had 3 bad games to start the season

he’s been quality ever since.

think masai would let him go back to spain?
that would be me
wow

RUDY! WE LOVE YOU (we do right?)

In 3427948734923 years Bayless is gonna look like Juwan Howard
what a play by rudy!
Gallo step back? Haven't seen that from him before!
Stuff like this makes me believe GK is actually a good coach
he can do it

he just chooses not to

How might you know this?
having watched him for 1 year with armani jeans milano

and 2 1/2 years with the knicks

LGA, could you tell us a bit about yourself?

Your connection to gallo

my cousins in italy

told me about him in 2007 and I have watched him using atdhe and the wonderful msg network ever since. if I’m not available to see one of his games I tivo it and watch later

why arent you

gallos guardian angel?

I always thought it flowed better with laimbeer

whom I also love to death

I mean how do you know he "chooses" not to?
pure conjecture

I’m just talking out of my ass like any good interweb

I'm not picking a fight.

I’m actually asking why you think this….

no I understand

I was not trying to pick a fight either

Okay just wanted to make it clear

I wasn’t being snarky or sarcastic

I wouldnt fool around wit LGA, Cat

he’s a much bigger Gallo fan than I am. Thats big. Lets just let him be.

Every Stiff member has a speciality

Chantech is the math wizard, TIDBMTID is the contract expert, LGA is the Gallo expert. and You Cat are the expert of commenting on off-subjects like a pro.

This is going to sound really bad

but Chantech had someone else working with him as well, right?

I think he is buddies with a bunch of math wizards

That is why he refers to himself as we in his fanposts.

Do any of the others post here?

I know he uses a different screen name when he posts something they collaborated on together, IIRC.

They have some other funny name

but I can recollect it right now.

I also comment on basketball too bub

I was asking him a serious question.

I might have to take back all the bad things I said about Rudy
notice how NY

is beating miami at the moment without Melo

yes

I AM SHOCKED!

they're probably moving the ball well
well that explains it
Is it me or....

Are we playing with some crazy confidence?

that. and the raptors are just bad.
these Toronto Raptors players have stories to tell their families

of the time they stood face to face against the Denver Nuggets. Like a Knight retelling the time he slayed the dragon, just in a more reversed role.

LIke the Knighs of Nee?
humphries playing some good ball for nets

turned his career around last 2 seasons

Gallo with a block!!
Italy > Lithuania
What, you don't like Lithuanian food and that nice cool Baltic breeze?
I don't even know what that's like.
Good lord this is lopsided.
Everytime the raptors score, I have a mini panic attack...

…then I look at the score.

spoiled as Eton students
That Gallo shot was the bomb
man, all streams are down. whats happening?

firstrow is fine

they hate asians. or something.
raptors were 18 down early last nite and won in 2x ot
oh, they played last night?

Didn’t realize they were on the 2nd of a b2b.

So yeah, not too worried about them repeating last night’s feat.

my bad, 2 nites ago against utah
Question

what exactly cant Gallo do?

Commentator on Rudy:

He’s wiry not wiry strong just wiry, but the man can BALL

Hahahah yes!!!
Nothing will beat this.

Milwaukee Commentator: “You can’t turn the ball over to Denver. It’s like giving them a big, juicy….donut.”

all i could think off is the kicker from the replacements
The Boston commentator

So funny.

18 point lead, 2:52 left in the half

If now’s not MANIMAL TIME, then when?!!?

When the lead is 30 in the 4th?
SA-Minny going down to the wire
I don't care what anyone says

Kleiza is a good looking man….

Won't argue with you

on good looking men.

AAA has a sad

:(

Why wouldn't KMart be welcomed back?
I'm asking the Toronto announcers
heard that too I'd even take JR
no way JR is coming back

not by his will, not by George’s

Fans would welcome him though I bet.

Some at least.

Strange comment I thought

there was no bad blood

According to them,

Not “part of our future”. I don’t really mind either way, but whatever. I’d welcome him back if not exactly clamoring for his return.

Should we call Mozgov

Big Daddy?

rec'd

I’m following suit with the new nickname

What's Big Daddy in Russian?
Google translate has it in russian

so i don’t know

Man, our D is awesome tonight
Yes! k-love with a dagger
wants that 4-year contract haha
HAHA just looked at the Nugs roster

I was shocked that Demarre Carroll is still with us

Toronto shooting 31% from FG range.

combo of good defense and bad offense.

they are getting some open shots

and missing most of them

Damn this is a beatdown so far
Big Daddy Block.
dammit

I was gonna post that

MUST BREAK YOU
Mozgov puts milk in the bottle for his newborn baby

“I must shake you”

ha ha

Moz’s baby at 3AM: “I must wake you”

ha

that joke keeps getting better and better

Moz, ice water in his veins

hitting those clutch free throws with everything on the line

Minny should beat SA

Rubio is cool

Notice how Moz is getting fewer fouls called vs him?
yeah I think he is being more recognized by refs even commentators of opposing teams are getting his name right
I think he's just fouling less
I think he's not playing against eams that Stern

cares about winning

slow start for AL confidant he will get a burger in the locker room and kick some ass 2nd half
spurs go down

nugs should be 2.5 games clear of third place after tonight. of course, they will only be 3.5 games out of 9th place. the west is nuts as always.

OT: If anyone here is a Torchwood fan

all five hours of “Children of Earth” is on BBC America tonight and tomorrow. I am so excited personally.

Prefer the normal Dr. Who stuff myself.

Matt Smith is a god.

Not a fan of the Matt Smith era

I like him but not the Moffat era which is weird because I LOVE Sherlock.
Ten was my Doctor :)

Ah of course.

The ladies love the Tennant Doctor ;)

Sherlock is brilliant. Love Moffat. He wrote The Girl in The Fireplace, easily one of my favorite Who episodes ever. Not to mention Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead.

But to each their own! :D

That's not why I love Ten

I like the stories under RTD better. Moffat also wrote Empty Child/Doctor Dance which are amongst my favorites. I think he’s a better writer than showrunner….maybe..

I can dig it.

I like to think he gives the whow a good direction that he compliments with his writing.

I feel like it's lost some of it's edge

I love River Song but don’t like Amy but I like Rory. I wouldn’t mind seeing CJ pal around with River Song doing Time Agent stuff.

See I'm a sucker for a red head :P

Rorry has had a great arc IMO. He was such a soft touch to begin with and now? Now he and Amy are equal in the relationship. It’s been nice to watch.

Amy just bugs me

I liked all the other companions but Amy irritates me to no end..

what is that?
Spinoff of Doctor Who

It’s an adult orientated spin off from Doctor Who starring an immortal Bi-sexual space adventurer.

I love Captain Jack Harkness so very very much

He’s not bi-sexual he’s omnisexual….aliens are included too :)

I searched Big Daddy on youtube

I came up with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeX2WO34D88

moz would look good in that get up
Rainbow Skyline like ahah
Knicks Heat

tied 9 min left

TIME FOR DINNER

brb

gotta cook for my fam

meatballs and pasta again, gotta use up that ground beef but I dont want to cook while game is on

May just insist we all have a couple cans of lentil soup with pasta, rice or bulgar wheat

Seems like the right plan
just gravy or something special?
typical italian tomato sauce

lots of garlic, some herbs (remember to put a little sugar in the sauce)

If I get to meatballs, I might just put a small cube of mozzarella cheese in each one as a surprise

sounds bangin

my gravy usually includes a pinch of cinnamon instead of sugar to give it some depth… but I might try sugar next time just to see

me too, thats a smart ingredient

one caution, do not use even a little too much or the dish is useless

true true

I have been burned on more than one occasion with cinnamon

Wait sugar in gravy? (Yes I know you mean marinara sauce)

cinnamon sounds interesting though

yes, you have to put some sugar to take away

acidity in tomato

Huh I've never made it that way...interesting
its simple science, cat

duh :)

That's not very nice.
thats sarcasm

thank you very much

yeah and a pretty good trick is

when you sautee the garlic and onions before putting in tomato product, sautee some bouilion cube because it gives dish a deeper flavor

LGA

Simple science if you have an Italian mom or GM

Over at the studio in Toronto they're all:

Hey the Raptors! they kinda suck….
Lets look at some Denver highlights!

They just spent 2 minutes making fun of Milsap

I really like this network and their commentators.

"me too!'" (x2)

20 bucks to anyone who an guess correctly who said that

wow-NO spanking orlando
DID anyone just see that cialis commercial hahaha
well fellow Stiffs

it’s been fun making a rare appearance in a game thread, but I gotta go now.

Nugs have been paying close attention to my ’74 Ford Gremlin Keys to the Game, so I am confident that they will maintain their lead enough to win the game without too much trouble.

Later ’taters!

You must introduce a different car to your next keys to the game

I’m expecting a 90’s GEO, but you’ll come up with something I’m sure.

yeah, thinking of making a semi-regular feature out of it

maybe the quality of car should match the quality of opponent

anyway, ’night!

I think it would be a huge success
the raptors may be missing their best shooter but dang their shot selection is awful
So, who is TACOS tonight?
j-ham

called it now, bitches

rudy
I hope Rudy is not still in the game in the 4th
OMG

Best dinner ever.

I had tacos, coincidently.

But not the gross kind.

How do you feel about fish tacos?
LOVE THEM

Tacos tonight were vegan. But still pretty good.

sounds great Cat

what kind of fish?

Usually just some whitefish like cod or tilapia

but swordfish is briliant for fancy fish tacos.

Wahoos fish taco is so good

banzai burritto nom nom nom

Lets go golden state!

Hope they can beat OKC tonight

I love Mozgov

But he is a total mouthbreather

do you mean that literally?

or is that innuendo?

Oh hey there is 2nd half thread

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