Denver Stiffs

You read fast.

...Are my eyes failing me

or did I just read the words “Yakhouba Diawara” again?

Agaliarept - February 20, 2012 reply

Bom-bomg son!

You are correct.

Didn't he start at shooting guard for two seasons?

What sort of craziness was that?

I am an AI

What you call time has no meaning for me.

What are you even talking about? haha

beats me

But I did read your entire article before I posted. normally I dont post here but felt compelled to tonight.

ha, thanks for posting!

And thanks for reading the site, as always!

I been reading it for years. And some of the Roundball articles and used to read Nick Sclafani before he went away.

Thanks for writing articles.

Jeffrey Morton - February 20, 2012 reply

Your colleague Jeff Morton

also is upset at the god awful officiating.

your friend Army of Nugs

also is upset. Watched the game from Tony Roma’s and thought I would get kicked out.

Army of Nugs - February 20, 2012 reply

Lol

It was horrendous ... horrendous I tells ya.

Gave the Wolves 4 points off the Webster flop three and the three b.s. technicals.

Probably the worst officiating at a game I've been to

I was able to move down to the lower level for the second half, and I could not believe the calls.

Blarch. So many bad calls. The bad call where Corey got the technical had me so upset. Or Rubio acting when Stone had the good pressure D.

Terrible.

Please can someone please gif Ridnour face planting

and it being called a foul. PLEASE?

SDcat09 - February 20, 2012 reply

(hugs) all around i think we all need it after that game

I already hugged you man

(hug)

SDcat09 - February 20, 2012 reply

THAT'S WHAT SHE...

okay.

holyMonkey - February 20, 2012 reply

these never get old in my book

Not sure how to re-size on SB

but here

Phil H. - February 20, 2012 reply

Haha that was a lot bigger on my screen before I reloaded the page

now I see what you mean AoN!

Phil H. - February 20, 2012 reply

Is there any chance our players can stop getting injured?

Just for a little while, maybe?

Shoemaker - February 20, 2012 reply

maybe if its gonna happen its better right now then around playoff time or during playoff time

that wasnt ment to come off as Dbagy as it was writen sorry

Someone needs to learn to wrap ankles pre game.

Japheth:the.other.kind.of.asian. - February 21, 2012 reply

that's dangerous too you know

wrap it too tight and all the stress goes straight to the knees.

Nobody on this team has knee problems.

Just sayin’.

Japheth:the.other.kind.of.asian. - February 21, 2012 reply

exactly! no one has knee problems

they should probably keep it that way. Studies show that the tight hard ankle wraps today are putting the force usually absorbed by the ankle straight to the knees thus leading to more knee injuries-

Know what's wierd?

I have NO ankle problems and zero knee problems. Holy hot butts!!!

You've been wrapping your thighs, right?

Russscot - February 21, 2012 reply

That we know of

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

So now knee problems are like babies?

If they were smart that would

just call them lower body injuries like hockey players.

Win is a win right now..

Good for the Nuggets. Faried is really coming along. He is going to be a nice addition for the Nuggets. Big Al stepped it up when it was needed (but please make FT). Stone was great on D, but watching him run the offense was painful. This experience has to be good for him though.

The team overcame a lot of adversity and frustration tonight. Hope we get some players healthy. We need ’em. Paul and Parker back to back the next two games is gonna be tough.

If this team guts out this tough stretch, it is only gonna make ’em tougher than nails.

djyoung71 - February 20, 2012 reply

any chance they talk about the nuggets on TNT

Nope

SDcat09 - February 20, 2012 reply

They will make fun of this game if they talk about it at all.

I wonder if there has ever been such a scoreless extendd period in an overtime before.

Exciting. All hail the Manimal!

Never would have thought they could win with that makeshift lineup. Can’t say I think Stone has a future tho.

mesh-head - February 20, 2012 reply

<3 Faried

Hamilton played good for a few minutes. He got a steal I think and swished a nice looking three. I was getting all excited and then he took that crazy shot where he ran away from the basket and spun around and shot a crazy fade away.

Seriously? I mean, I do that shit on the playground because I’m a retard and have no game and I’m playing with a bunch of fatties on a fucking playground. Jordan is in the NBA, what the hell was that shit?

Wow, dude.

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

exactly

we only allow 360 layups and 3 point shots ten feet behind the line around here.

Sorry to the Dre lovers but that man has to go

he is solely responsible for the okc loss, and could have lost this one if he didn’t get himself kicked out. I hope we move him at trade deadline.

TyLawesome - February 20, 2012 reply

Yeah

I tend to give Andre a bit more slack than many here, but I’m pretty pissed about that sequence.

He was right, the call was BS. But he needs to understand the game situation, etc.

What did Andre do last night? Missed that game. Sorry.

Rainbow skyline - February 20, 2012 reply

during OT

he traveled on two straight pocessions. then threw a sloppy pass to harden in the worst possible time.

TyLawesome - February 20, 2012 reply

to be fair

he was pretty awesome for the first three quarters before GK ground him into dirt. But I think it makes sense to trade him.

Yes

Karl played him too many minutes straight. The old man lost his legs.

Three turnovers and a missed layup. All in OT

georgekarl - February 20, 2012 reply

I'm not a big fan of Dre,

but he does a great job – most of the time – creating, 12 assists tonight?? But why he would let himself get tossed when he knew Ty was done for the game. Not smart. And down the stretch against OKC those travels and turnovers, and a tendency to jack-up 3s, just really confuse me.

He should be showing off veteran maturity, understanding the game, doing the smart things and yet he has just made some dumb, dumb decisions. There are ways that you can “think” your team to wins by doing simple things and he has not been doing that.

Maybe Dre was just tired and new he wasn't going to get any rest or timeouts.

I still miss Chauncey

yeah cause he never took a bad three....

Zachm219 - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app reply

Dre has been struggling

and I love Faried. But pretty sure we lost that game cause the manimal did not box out the last play of the game.

TopherYork - February 21, 2012 reply

Wrong game

manimal didnt box out vs memphis

Army of Nugs - February 21, 2012 reply

sorta funny that the team does better with him on the floor

unless you say the plus minus stats are lying.

he was +15 when tossed yesterday.

as to the okc game, that one is on karl. noway dre or harrington should have played the last half of the 3rd, all the 4th and all the overtime without a break.
karl doesn’t play affalo or lawson that long without breaks, though they not as fit as andre and harrington.

utahcoyote - February 21, 2012 reply

Dre, for all his faults, makes a positive impact

the stats don’t lie. he does tend to make some boneheaded decisions at times, but other times makes this team click.

how is he solely responsible for the OKC loss?

He put up a double double and was one of our best players!…mindless…

Zachm219 - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app reply

27th

That’s right.

the real stranger - February 20, 2012 reply

Strong finish. Way to go!

georgekarl - February 20, 2012 reply

Blazers lose

Clippers too

Sucks about the Blazers

I don’t care if they are in our division, I’d rather them beat LA every single time.

Knicks lose. Nuggets win.

WIN-WIN

Albafica - February 20, 2012 reply

No Linsanity for you?

Are you using Freegate? I heard Symantec was calling it a trojan and sandboxing it.

georgekarl - February 20, 2012 reply

Well, I'd love to watch Knicks win until Melo returns.

and when I use twitter facebook and youtube, I do need freegate, but no denverstiffs.

and dont forget, the Knicks lose, because the only man who could stip Lin is

Melo

Happy Days are here again
The Skies above are clear again
….
…
Happy days are here again!

sgiustra - February 20, 2012 reply

yes indeed

absolutely right haha

Rainbow skyline - February 20, 2012 reply

Finally broke the 3 game losing streak with a hard fought win,

but this 4 games in 5 nights is a killer. Come on nuggets, you can pull through it!!
#GetBackToWinning

moondoggie12 - February 20, 2012 reply

so once again,

Al enters the game with 8 minutes left in the third and plays every minute thereafter, including overtime. I’m just at a loss over this. I realize our scoring options were very limited tonight, but why not at least give him a few minutes rest at the beginning of the fourth? A rested Bird couldn’t give us a few good minutes? Al actually did sort of ok on tired legs, hitting a few big shots, but that’s mostly because he took pretty much every one, and he missed a ton. And then there’s those free throws. Still, all the credit in the world to the guy for his performance under those circumstances. But seriously WTF is GK doing? Is there any history of him doing this? Is there any other team in history that plays guys for 25 straight minutes? Much less a 31 year-old on BACK-TO-BACK NIGHTS? Of all the weird things Karl does, this has to be the weirdest.

Karl loves to ride the vets

Till their legs fall off.
I have faith in Ujiri to either fire Karl or get players that fit in Karl’s ridiculous Don Nelson system.
Btw I hate how Karl is like Don Nelson, oh well that is what we have to deal with

JR15 - February 20, 2012 via mobile reply

he's not getting fired, I can guarantee that

Everyone who knows what they are talking about and has experience in the league knows Karl is a great coach

Zachm219 - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app reply

Al is only 31????

ParkHillNative - February 21, 2012 reply

I believe he came into the league straight out of high school

whoops, 32

as of 4 days ago

Was Mozgov hurt in the 2nd half?

I loved that we gave Faried so many minutes. He was great. But with MIN without their C in the second half why not go for a 5 minute stretch with Moz or Koufos and Al and Faried and create a mismatch OR give Al a break for a minute or two.

Also, no Birdman tonight? Interesting…something in the works?

I liked Mozgov attacking early on, showing a little bit of a jumper. Not often, but I think he and Koufos both deserve minutes and short-handed I don’t know why we make ourselves even more shorthanded.

Moz is still coming back from his injury

Bird has been playing hard but he is old and his knee’s are older. I’m pretty sure we were just resting him. I would rather have a 100% bird for the clippers than an a 50% bird vs the wolfs and the clips. Now watch him not play on wednesday

TopherYork - February 21, 2012 reply

it's entirely possible he sat because he's on the block

Not uncommon for a team to do that

Zachm219 - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app reply

Because, TWolves playing small gave Karl an instant excuse to go small himself

Why react to what they are doing?

Why not dictate to them? Especially during the stretch when we were struggling to create offense. Make them guard your 7’0", 6’9, 6’8 guys…if they try to play them with a small line up pound it into paint.

I’m not saying it is an all the time line-up but create your own mismatches!!

the real stranger - February 21, 2012 reply

Any news on Ill Will?

Saw him watching the game. Looks like he could be back soon.
We need that 41 points and 23 boards soon lol.

JR15 - February 20, 2012 via mobile reply

Should be signed any day now if he hasn't been already

Now he just needs his FIBA clearance and he’s good to go. Already in playing shape and he’ll be ready to play right away.

Hanging out in the winning locker room, Chandler said he thinks he can get clearance to sign with Denver within the next week. Karl came by to say hello to Chandler, saying to him: “We could have used you tonight, man.”

I'm not sure how we won tonite, I mean, geez for the last part of game

we didnt have our 2 PGs, PF, SF, I mean WTF did we have ? ….

Faried thats what and how right you are Nate to make him the round up title character.

What that kid gives us you cant buy, you cant teach or coach. The incendiary energy, the leontine muscle.

Like D Rodman, all a coach has to do is wind him up and point him to court.

The guys a force, flat out

So much fun watching that man go after a rebound

holyMonkey - February 21, 2012 reply

His hands are like fly paper

ParkHillNative - February 21, 2012 reply

yup

Man he was fun to watch tonight — I hate thinking that his minutes are going to vanish when Nene and Gallo are healthy. He’s improving greatly with more playing time and is a real difference maker out there.

Listen here.

Start:
Ty
AAA
Gallo
Nene
Moz

Team dos:
Stone
WC
Brewer
Sticky Hands Faried
K2

The future.

ParkHillNative - February 21, 2012 reply

I'm sold, after watching that game tonight

Btw, I looked ahead on the schedule. The Nugs only make one trip to Oakland this year, and it’s on a night I can’t go, :(

Maybe next season we can plan something.

I'd be stoked either way.

All I know now is, KF is a MFin winner. Best draft pick in Nuggs history, IMO.

Yes to this

So excited about that pick in the draft. The Nuggets never draft the college player I covet. Crazy how much the new FO and I think alike.

ahem

Fly Agaric - February 21, 2012 reply

We absolutely still need Dre in that second unit

Stone should never be playing point guard. His handle is garbage. My friend and I and the people behind us would collectively groan every time he put the ball on the floor, which was a lot, because he was playing the point.

airforcefoo - February 21, 2012 reply

He did look clumsy with the ball.

Stone? yuck

Zachm219 - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app reply

if you're good, there are enough minutes

This is on Karl. There are 240 total team minutes per game. Faried can be a tornado for us. Why cant we pencil him in for 20 minutes, more if some guys are down?

PS With our luck, you know we will suffer more injuries.

Very agree with you. Thats the big problem with the rest of the bigs

They’re usually in position, they just cant find the handle on the ball and it squirts away

Faried needs to hi five them before the game.

So some stickyness rubs off.

leonine

I won’t claim a thursty, because I had to look it up. So thanks for the cool new word. And yeah, Faried’s a badass.

reply fail

thanks

I was about to write “lion like” but remembered that there was a better term but I was too lazy and excited to make sure.

But I love words and appreciate the heads up.

Stone on the switch

is STRAIGHT MONEY. I officially don’t mind a 5’11" starter if our back-up is 6’7"!!

I am officially convinced though

that Stone is not ready to run an NBA team. He is a great defender and plays smart basketball, but you cannot have him closing games yet. He is not savvy enough or skilled enough to get the job done. But he would make a great backup!

Agree

Ugly game...

gritty win. Glad to see the Nuggets get a much needed W, in a game I thought they were going to let slip away numerous times.

Faried is an absolute beast. The leaps in his development since training camp/pre-season are very encouraging.

If anybody else was wondering why Andersen didn’t get any burn after a few consistent positive performances, the Nuggets tweeted this…

George Karl was asked about not playing Birdman vs. MIN. He said he wanted Koufos to get a chance against former team.

Source

Karl was also cautious with Birdman (33) because #Nuggets were playing second of back-to-back games. Expect to see him at LAC Wednesday.

Source

NuggetsFan99 - February 21, 2012 reply

Then why did he sit Koufos?? Crazy, I say!

Kiszla: Kenneth Faried’s increased role with Nuggets hurts Birdman

Just pay his fucking salary and let the Bird retire here, asshole BILLIONAIRE. He sells so much damn merchandise.

That is kinda my thing also

I feel bad for Birdman. He should retire a Nugget. Let him be the emergency BIG.

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

If you are Bird

would you rather sit on the bench or go somewhere that you can play some meaningful minutes? A hint, sitting on the bench sucks.

Meh, I somewhat disagree with that article.

Andersen was already out of Karl’s rotation, collecting DNPs before Faried starting getting consistent minutes. Before Faried started seeing the court, although nothing was said, it looked like there was no place in Denver for Andersen, and some (fans) thought if he wasn’t traded, he’d be amnestied in the off-season.

With or without Faried’s energy off the bench, there’s no room for Andersen in Karl’s go-small rotation & Mozgov/Koufos being in favor with him—that was clear over the first month and a half of the season.

The ironic thing is, I actually like when Faried & Andersen play alongside each other. It’s been a small sampling, but it seems like Andersen feeds off of Faried’s energy, and both are highly active on the defensive end and boards.

NuggetsFan99 - February 21, 2012 reply

Birdman is still effective in stretches

Say what you will, but he can still play a little. Mozgov and K2 are still very raw, also.

He had played 3 straight good games.

I never said anything negative about him; just said that it seems so long as Karl had Mozgov & Koufos, he isn’t going to give Andersen significant time regardless of how well he’s playing.

NuggetsFan99 - February 21, 2012 reply

Birdman looks like he spent the summer with the Sons of Anarchy

Bird has always been tatted up, or had a mohawk etc.

Not sure what makes that suddenly all “Sons of Anarchy”.

I think its the beard and slicked back hair

its very biker-esque

JBnuggs - February 21, 2012 reply

Funny I see plenty of plenty with that

look that aren’t bikers….

But hey perception

Plenty of plenty? WTF

Plenty of people

And suddenly

the word plenty looks like Greek to me…

He didn't always look like that

Yes I know but I'm saying he's had tats for a very long time

long before “Sons of Anarchy” was on TV.

And it’s crazy but I also know that he wasn’t born with them either.

Love
Insipid Cat

its the beard and the hair,

I couldn't find a good image of SOA

Oh I get the resemblance. And I did before :)

Maybe in the next game we can play the 4th quarter with

Miller
Stone
Hamilton
Faried
Kufous

George Karl talks about it in his lab of matchupzzz
“ummm YEAH YEAh lets go with that lineup cuz that one is a winner on Thursdays and Sunday afternoons on an odd numbered day. Yeah yeah yup thats what I’m gonna call it its my Thursdays and Sunday afternoons on odd numbered day lineup.”

Ya, that was puzzling reading about his logic on rotations

It makes sense now why we are so frustrating that his rotations make zero sense…because, they don’t make any sense. He admitted it.

at the end of the game, i really don't see a bunch of people that are able to be "the man" at the end of the game.

Right now, I see Brewer, Faried and Gallo with that level of confidence (maybe its a youth thing)? Its really not there with Law, Nene or Harrington. The wild cards are Afflalo, Fernandez and Miller. We really need those guys that you feel confident enought to put the ball in their hands without them panicking.

We need Chauncey back

I so want Ty to be this guy. I agree it isn't always there yet, but it should be!!

Yeah, we don't have enough injured guys.

do you know how bad chauncey is with clutch shots?

staggeringly bad. We observed it when he was with the nugs, but by the numbers, he is like worst-in-the-league bad.

Afflalo

Also, Karl needs to find a solid big, defensive end unit.

I suspect it should include Nene, KK, Faried, Brewer, AAA and Gallo? It still galls me that we could not stop the OKC offense at any point.

even

if you do stop them, KD can shoot over the top of a defender

NewEraNugg - February 21, 2012 reply

we can definitely do better than letting both him and westbrook get 90+ points.

I’d at least expect that we keep him out of the paint and shoot contested shots on the perimeter. We can’t do either.

I am sorry...but we defended them both poorly

We have the guys, when healthy, to defend KD. Brewer, Gallo, and WC.

IMO Nugz, you're one third right

Brewer is too slight, Chandler too short. Gallo is our best match up against KD.

And I made point previously that if KD is going to go off there is little that Gallo could do but he could reduce KD from 51 to 40 and thats all we need.

I like Gallo on KD

But only in short stretches. Gallo is a good defender because of his length and lateral quickness, but neither gives him any advantage against Durant, and covering Durant is going to rack up fouls. Gallo is too valuable on offense to miss time on the court due to foul trouble.

Fly Agaric - February 21, 2012 reply

Gallo together with Brewer and Faried.

It can’t be Birdman though…there was a play at the end where coming off a screen he switched, bit on the headfake (surprise) from beyond the three point line and gave Durant an easy drive. I know he goes for the block – always – but really he bit 25 feet from the basket??

wilson chandler is the answer to stop KD

Kenchingy - February 21, 2012 reply

Will is our KD Stopper

One of the best perimeter defenders in the League, and he has a nice offensive game. Signing Will long term is a must.

ACEIII - February 21, 2012 via mobile reply

here's hoping thats true. my memory of his play against kd last year is fuzzy. how did he do then?

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

So well that the nuggets

lost the series in 5 games.

on this TIDBMTID, I agree

I dont recall Will being effective vs KD. Will would be better off on OKC’s power forward or SG. KD is too tall, Westbrook is too quick

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

I think Gallo is our best matchup on KD

only guy long enough to bother his jump shots and be able to bother him from the side/behind on drives.

yes and Gallo keeps KD occupied on defense

very important because one strategy against KD is to tire him a bit

I think he did good

you don’t stop a scorer from scoring…you limit him and his effectiveness.

I still think the key to beating the Thunder is limiting Westbrook. And getting a freakin body on Ibaka

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

Put AAA on Westbrook and Will on KD and you have shot.

As for last year’s playoffs, Niggs were in all games but one and should have one a game in OkC on a blown basket interference call.

I think we match up well with OKC if healthy and if we have Will on KD.

ACEIII - February 21, 2012 via mobile reply

Wow, a win

How many people here thought they would win this game after Andre got ejected? Show of hands, please. Anyone with their hand up not named SDcat is a liar, and she doesn’t count because she thinks they are going to win when they are down 20 with three seconds left.

I have no idea how they won that game, but I’ll take it. Oh, and I wish that they had Amnestied big al when they had the chance. Completely worthless. Now they’ll probably have to include Faried, Mozgov, and Lawson just to get someone to take him in a trade.

Oh and WTF

they still don’t have an inbounding play? They had to burn a timeout on one, then repeated the lakers disaster with 4.9 seconds left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

Dude,

it takes decades to develop an inbounding play. Maybe even centuries. I’ll let you know after I’ve been coaching this team 30 more years.

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

I did

The guy I was sitting down next to could have been a typical Stiff: hated Karl’s rotations, annoyed about some of the players, etc.

After Andre was ejected I turned to him and I said: “We got this. it’s all good.”

And he grumbled under his breath. I also told him that he shouldn’t be so grumpy because the Nuggets are still playing some decent, competitive basketball without the bulk of their starters and key rotation players.

I asked, though, and he doesn’t know about this blog.

Fly Agaric - February 21, 2012 reply

Well, you have more confidence than me.

I about 50% believed that Andre got ejected on purpose because he was worn out. Looking back with 20-20 hindsight, would they have won that game with an exhausted Andre playing the rest of the way?

I love how fast Faried is developing. I was never a doubter, but I thought he would take a couple of seasons to develop. Never mind. At one point the timberwolves got a fast break, but the guard pulled it back rather than going for a layup. My wife said they were scared of Faried, and he wasn’t anywhere in the picture!

I love being dismissed like that. Its awesome

that being optimistic and rooting for a team gets spun into me believing we would win being down 20 points with 3 seconds left.
Thanks for tha.

Mission: 5-0…Success. Just sayin.

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

So you didn't think they were going to win when Andre got ejected?

And since when do you not appreciate a little hyperbole? Am I going to have to get GoldenNugget back over here to show you how it’s done?

I was unsure.

I’m only used to hyperbole being directed at the team.

As always

never a straight answer, never makes a choice. Ride that fence like there’s no tomorrow.

As always, thanks for replying :)

Gosh

I was just joking.

And I appreciate you.

SD, you just go on being SD

Thank God not everyone is a depressed moper like me. Let us wallow in our pessimistic misery. You just be you

Was at the game last night

That was the worst officiating I’ve ever seen at a game in person. The refs were fucking horrible. They tried their best to give the game to Minnesota but we pulled off a miracle. I was giving the business to Mark Davis. i have no clue what the guy was watching last night. The way things were going, I thought I was going to be T’d up.

Al really saved the ship form sinking in the 2ns quarter. I love Al when he is driving to the rack instead of standing out at the 3 point line jacking up shots. He played a solid game, but he has to hit his free throws

Ty hurt his ankle again. No shock there. I just think this team is cursed so far into the season.

Faried really impressed me also. If we could somehow combine Nene’s skill set and Faried’s hustle into one, we would have one helluva big man.

These injuries just suck. I wonder if we will have a full team to thow out there when we play Wednesday

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

Can a fan get a technical?

At one of my sister’s soccer games, the ref told my step-father he was going to give my sister a yellow card if he said another word the rest of the game.

The microphones last night kept picking up people yelling at the refs last night. At one point, you can clearly see and hear the coach of the thunder “What are you looking at? They can’t do that”

Do you mean the T-Wolves coach?

I was one of them blasting the refs. I just got so fed up. I wish Karl would pull a Phil Jackson and rip the refs to the media

ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown - February 21, 2012 reply

Yes, T-wolves coach.

Rick Adelman

He came close last night in his postgame presser.

Check out Koz’s page on Altitude and listen to it. Karl is right on the line.

Russscot - February 21, 2012 reply

well he needs to cross that line

well Dre haters and Stone lovers

Time to eat crow. The one good thing about Dre getting tossed (which he does need to be smarter about) was it pretty much showed Julyan Stone is not an NBA pg. the offense was completely lost with him running the show

Zachm219 - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app reply

plus I don't want a 6'6 point guard

and no smarty pants bring up Magic Johnson

0-8 from the field

Still not time to eat crow. Plus, Stone’s defense helped more than Dre setting up shots.

Army of Nugs - February 21, 2012 reply

I'll hold off on the crow

No one is saying Dre can’t be really good. He’s playing with an on/off switch, and it’s been off more than on for a while now.

and Stone's FAR superior D helps make up for his offensive deficiencies.