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Nuggets at Clippers: Stitch 'em together with bailing wire (8:30pm MST)

Denver Nuggets at Los Angeles Clippers, Feb 22, 2012 8:30 PM MST


With the evil "Ankle Injury Leprechaun" striking the Nuggets yet again, this time with Ty Lawson and Arron Afflalo, they prepare to take on the Los Angeles Clippers for the third time this season. This time facing a familiar face on a new team, yet again.

Star-divide

Game: 34

Records:
Denver:
18-15 (9-8 on the road)
Streak: won 1
Clippers: 19-11 (11-4 at home)

Injuries:
Denver
: Danilo Gallinari (left ankle sprain) is out. Nene (left calf strain) is questionable. Rudy Fernandez (lower back strain) is day to day. Arron Afflalo (sprained ankle) is day to day. Ty Lawson (sprained ankle) is day to day
Clippers: Chauncey Billups (torn Achilles) out for rest of season.

Television: Altitude

Season Series: tied 1-1

Opposition's Take: Clips Nation

This will be the third time in a month the Nuggets have played the Los Angeles Clippers. They should be quite familiar with this team by now, and Timofey Mozgov seems to be public enemy number one in Clipper-land because of his hard/not hard foul on Blake Griffin, February 2nd. It is undeniable that the Nuggets responded to that incident and went on to crush the Clippers in LA that night (112-91).

Aside from that, as we all know, circumstances are a bit different now. Chauncey Billups went down with a torn Achilles tendon not long after the Nuggets played the Clips in Los Angeles (Feb. 6th). Meanwhile the Nuggets have been through one calamitous injury after another. Since then, Nene Hilario, Danilo Gallinari, Mozgov, Afflalo and Rudy Fernandez, and Lawson have all missed time or are still missing time. In fact, the victory over the Clips on the Feb. 2nd may count as the highest point of this early season for the Nuggets. From there, the team has suffered through a month so hellish, Dante most likely wrote about it in his Inferno (3-8 since Feb. 2nd).

One further difference for the Clips is the addition of former Nuggets power forward Kenyon Martin. K-Mart unleashed a bit of controversy earlier this week when he made some rather incendiary comments toward his former coach George Karl. Regardless of what side you come down on in that particular debate, it definitely added some spice to this burgeoning rivalry. I always liked K-Mart, and despite the recent revisionist history ... the last several seasons, when healthy, Kenyon was the absolute key to the Nuggets' toughness. Sometimes I wish we had that toughness back. It will be interesting to see if he provides some of that tough-minded defense for the Clippers going forward.

As always the triumvirate of Chris Paul, Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan will be the focal points for the Nuggets to stop, or at the very least contain. It looks like the addition of Mozgov has, at the very least, neutralized Jordan's high flying blocking and alley oop dunking. Griffin has gone off in both games, but wasn't the same after Moz laid him out when attempting another dunk. Paul was a bit of a no-show in the second Nuggets meeting and surely will be looking to play better tonight. With the Clippers on a recent two game losing streak, they seek to end that against a heavily injured Nuggets team.

Nuggets of Wisdom

Who will play tonight for our Denver Nuggets? Will these players be stitched together with bailing wire and duct tape? The rash of ankle injuries is disturbing in many ways, not the least of which is its target on the Nuggets who are the biggest playmakers on the team. The Gallo injury is by far the one that affects the team the most, as he (with the clarity of his absence) is the glue that holds this offense and some of the defense together. Ty Lawson's ankle injury also hurts because it looked like he was starting to break out of his periodic "won't drive the ball or stay aggressive" swoon.

In all honesty, this may be one of those games where you just have to put a team on the court and pray that they can pull off a miracle of some sort. With the VERY real chance that the Nuggets may be missing both Ty and AAA tonight the likelihood of a Andre Miller, Al Harrington, Corey Brewer, Moz and Kenneth Faried starting lineup will be out there to face the Clippers. With Julyan Stone, Kosta Koufos, Jordan Hamilton and Chris Andersen on the bench.

I've seen stranger things happen than a Nuggets victory tonight. Hell, the fourth quarter and overtime of the Minnesota Timberwolves game may be proof that anything can happen. I have no expectations and I'm hoping beyond hope to be surprised and delighted. Let's see if it happens. I'm remaining hopeful the Nuggets can suddenly get healthy and surprise us all tonight.

Either way GO NUGGETS!

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Comments

Nice write up, Jeff.

But a couple of things: the link for Clips Nation has a typo in it and is broken, and I think you dropped a “t” in your title (stich? really??)

hope we can pull this one out

since the spurs are probably already in Denver waiting for us to get back.

plus they rested Parker & Duncan last night against Portland
What revisionist history on Martin?

People were saying for years that his sign and trade was terrible, he was overpaid, and he cost the nuggets their legitimate window on a title with Melo. What revision? Kmart was a very good player when healthy. He health issues rendered him into fools gold.

how does being good when not injured make him fools gold

While his contract was prohibitive…blame Kiki…not Kenyon

Being good when not injured is exactly what made him fools gold

He’d look all shiny and valuable, then get injured and be unable to provide any useful service. Relying on Kmart to be a key rotation player most often resulted in disappointment.

Man....I see it the exact opposite

relying on Kenyon as a key rotation player proved its immense value in 2010 when he was out and our defense collapsed down the stretch. There was no doubt that season who was the MVP.

Exactly

he became worthless and the defense collapsed. Playing Kenyon Martin was a recipe for having your team collapse. He is a Ducati – looks great in the showroom, has great performance, and if you take it on a trip, you’ll end up stranded on the side of the road. That Honda that passes you will look very nice as it goes by on it’s way to winning in the playoffs.

I see it as bad, bad luck for the Nuggets

It’s been so long now, I don’t remember what his health issues were when he signed the contract. Should the Nuggets have seen the trouble coming?

Sometimes I think the Denver Nuggets are cursed.

I was excited when they signed him

and certainly bad luck. My anger with the contract is pure hindsight. He did have a broken leg in college, and the fact that the Nets weren’t offering him a similar contract should have been a red flag.

Even if you take out the health issues

KMart was still vastly overrated. Yes, it was not his fault Kiki gave him that contract, but the bottom line is KMart was still a flawed player. And the bottom line is that the player + the salary = the impact. Having a limited player make that much money hamstrung this team for years. So while I enjoyed some of what KMart brought, you cannot discuss KMart without including the albatross contract.

Put the Kmart signing in context

It was not a good contract, but at the time he was signed, the Nuggets needed two things, a PG (Miller signed) and muscle on the blocks due to the fact that Camby and Nene are soft. Kmart was a 14 and 8 guy that provided toughness. Certainly he was paid too much, but he was one of the biggest names on the market back then, coming off of championship runs and he was seen as the person that could get the Nuggets past the first round and potentially much further. It didn’t work out…but Kmart is not a scrub either, and he certanily wasn’t when he signed.

Since he was injured when we needed him

I think its pretty obvious. And if he wasn’t injured he was busy complaining about calls, getting T’s and generally being a non +.

You mean like 90% of the NBA? Weak argument

And Kmart was a HUGE plus on defense. While he was a sub par defensive rebounder he did actually quarterback the defense ala Kevin Garnett (although KG has always been a better all around player)

Thats 90% of the nba too

Pick one big name and put your guy up against him and show he’s better.

All around though you seriously would have taken kmart of Garnett?

Let’s not forget when he was the ultimate target after getting a rebound because he couldn’t buy a free throw.

Under those perameters Dwight Howard is a scrub...
Totally with Jeff Morton on this one.

K-Mart was a boss defender. One of the better one-the-ball defenders in the NBA. Love him and miss his interior toughness.

All I remember

is Kmart on the ground in game 6 of WCF grabbing dudes legs. Kmart was good/ok at times, but by no means great.

Good defender terrible on offense.

Why do you think the GM of the year didn’t want to keep him around?

No one wants to mention the dumb fouls

the costly technicals, the decision to start shooting threes, the “Maybe I just won’t come back for the playoffs” “They could have given that money to me” (talking about Al’s contract)"

Has our team now shown us nothing? We don’t need these selfish players who only care about stats and money. K-mart was detrimental to this team and I’m happy he’s gone

KMart played fake defense

he would preach it, yap about it to his teammates even on the floor, but would only back it up 50% of the time. I will admit he played some amazing D at times (thinking of the Dallas series) but other times he would be the reason for the missed assignment. I will stick to the fact that he was flawed.

He totally blew that game for the clippers against san antonio

His incredible defending created the ultimate mismatch when he switched off of Duncan. You can set your watch by kmart doing something stupid.

Can we please put that farce to rest

I always hear “K-mart was so good on Dirk in that series, he’s a dirk stopper rabble rabble rabble.”

Don’t you people remember Dirk was the one player killing us in that series. That he was completely unstoppable? That he averaged a double double to the tune of 34.4 pts and 11.6 reb?

i have to side w Kmart on this tho

GK should just keep his mouth shut.

Not me

Kmart should shut it, it’s over Kmart, they signed young dependable guys.
My respect for Karl went up after he called Melo out, that was the least he could do for Nugget fans after months of BS.

They already beat Melo, now lets see them go shut Kmart up too!

Your respect may have gone up

but clearly it cost Karl respect of the players in the locker room, exactly as I said at the time he did it.

The

Association tells a different story. Seems like most players like George to me. Not everyone is going to like you all the time, especially w/ some of these primadonnas in the NBA. It was always the same w/ Kmart, get hurt and watch his attitude sour, can’t blame George for that.

The current players haven't been exposed to him for very long yet

Karl’s history is that the players get along with him for a while, then he loses the team. In his prior stops, the teams fired him when it happened. This time, Melo forced his way out and the rebuilt the team when it happened. So he has a new lease before the current group turns on him.

So now we're blaming Melo leaving on Geroge Karl too?

you guys are ridiculous

thought u were gonna take a break from stiffs
There's a reason that, through every stop in his coaching career he's had players who hate him

it’s because he can’t…keep…his…mouth…shut. Something compels George to say something when nothing needs to be said.

I believe Karl's inner censor is brokteded

He pretty much always says what’s on his mind, no matter what. The bouts with cancer may have softened his temper somewhat, but he still just says the first thing he thinks.

agree Russ

I see some impulsivity in what GK says and even his rotations. IMO GK is smart but immature.

Also

alot of players that love him. Can’t just focus on the haters

to me Kmart’s comments were sour grapes over not being resigned or even presented w/ the opportunity

How is it different

for Karl to say bad things to the media after the Melo trade and for Kmart to say bad things about Karl when he is on another team? Exactly the same.

It’s office politics, and it is an important lesson that anyone who plans on working with other people needs to learn. I was told about it at a very young age, didn’t want to believe it, then had it nearly cost me my job. It has already cost Karl jobs in the past.

I don't think

it’s different, I’m just not going to side w/ Kmart. Dude is a hot head w/ bad knees. Karl said what was on his mind after going through months of drama, most of which you & I have no idea about. Kmart has sour grapes for the Nuggets over way more then just Karl and lashes our a year later?

Maybe he's ADD
While I agree that Karl is madening at times

with not keeping his mouth shut…there are plenty of other very good coaches that don’t either.

I never thought about Karl saying something about Melo as a way to speaking up for Nuggets fans. I like that. Preach on George!

you could

hear the frustration in his voice on the Association. “we were dying” he says.
It hurt him, hurt his team, why not say something?

Preach on George!

Again....why say what doesn't need to be said

let your team’s play speak for itself. Don’t throw that little extra elbow in at the end to extract your pound of flesh.

It is very short sighted

it feels good in the short run, but in the long run it causes you problems. Have to learn to pick your spots and not start unnecessary wars.

Maybe

to him it wasn’t unnecessary

Exactly, to each their own

Karl and the team were screwed over all year by Melo-drama, and you are going to pick at Karl for saying a few things about how much better the team concept and locker room are now. It was obvious to everyone! So why pick at George for actually having the balls to say it.

I agree that George needs to be careful about guys on his team, not allowing tension to creep into the locker room, but goodness, I think picking at George for his statements is ridiculous…so KMart should keep his mouth shut.

Thing is George always manages to find a scapegoat

every season. It doesn’t reflect well on his leadership for him to do this.

I think they both should have kept their mouths shut
Maybe kmart will pull a chauncey and get revenge on his former team that dissed him.

Then again, I think if he tries to wobble that much in one game his knees will blow up again.

Let's hope he tries!

Crossing my fingers that Kmart makes a 15 footer early on, so he gets into one of those chucking moods!

Regardless of the outcome

I’m looking forward to Faried coming from no where to completely reject Griffin on one of his showboat dunks. The Clippers shouldn’t be mad at Moz about that block. The reality is that Griffin was showboating and that’s why the block resulted in him landing awkwardly. If it had been a normal dunk, he would have landed on his feet.

Griffin trys to make every dunk a highlight.

I blame ESPN and Kia

I think he'll learn

to tone it down a little after a few more blocks like the one from Mozzy. I hope he learns it before it costs him a serious injury. He is really exposing himself.

Agreed.

You would think that after missing his entire rookie year to injury, he might have wised up some. And, for the record, when he’s in the open court, I have no problem with the highlight dunks. This is, after all, entertainment. It’s when he’s dunking in traffic out of the half court set, and he gets that body lean going in the air, that he’s really putting his entire career in jeopardy.

I think, to a certain extent, he expects people to get out of the way.
yup

although I don’t remember that rookie year injury being from a big showboating in-your-face dunk.

And yeah, he really does need to think about those big throwdowns when somebody’s right up on him. But I’m glad he did it to Perkins.

That wasn't even a dirty play by Mozgov

Clips fans are retarded.

they're just making shit up
Yes TIDBMTID

I’m salivating at the thought of Griff, ball, and Faried meeting somewhere 2/3 up on the backboard. May the best man win.

What do y'all think of putting AAA on Paul and 'Dre on Foye?

Assuming, of course, that Ty sits out.

AAA

and Ty played CP3 very well last time. Hope to see alot of AAA in CP3s grill tonight, that is if he plays

Yeah, if we're without

AAA, Ty, Nene, Gallo, and Rudy, I think Karl just starts throwing out line-ups without any real purpose more than usual. Although JStone on Paul could be intriguing…maybe he could get under his skin like Dahntey did a few years back.

If his ankle and toe doesn't bother him too much I would like to see AAA on Paul.

But if he is still hurting and can’t handle the cuts from Paul then I hope george makes a change. I don’t count on that though.

is there a positive side ot all this loosing and injuries?

maybe.

if we take Kenneth Faried’s last game (and continual improvement) and the emergence of Kosta Koofus as a beginning, then there could be some extremely positive things in store for the Nuggets. One day, and not too far in the future, the Nuggs will have their players well and ready to play. When that day comes, our “role players” will have had some valuable time, and the Nuggs will be ready to make the playoff push.

Remember, while Gallo is out, he is also resting and there is a positive to that also.

I hope this theory is correct

others have said the same as you. I worry about the Juwan Howard effect. Getting minutes on a bad team inflates stats and can make guys look better than they are. Right now, the nuggets one the court have shown flashes, but haven’t been good enough to win. Are they improving, or are they benefiting from stat inflation?

There may

be positive w/ all these guys getting time now. Should make the team stronger when injuried guys return.

hey spokenwar

you’d make a good friend for someone who’s wife just cheated on him and investments went south

Nah, the injuries have crushed us and having to play a top tier team in playoffs (IF we make the playoffs) is not a good thing.

dunno... good question

let’s look at it this way. Faried did ok with K. Love. We will certainly learn more tonight

I think K. Love is a prime example of the Juwan Howard effect.
well im suree the Nuggets

will mis Ty and AAA, just because it seems like every game now-a-days they are missing 3-5 guys.. If they don’t miss Ty and AAA I expect to see a lineup of Ty Dre AAA Rudy and Big Al in the final 8 minutes, and im sure I will be dissapointed with the outcome… if this happens again I will be fully on the fire GK side. His retarded rotations are starting to take their toll on me.

Rudy is most likely not gonna play, so you'll have to find a different patsy for your closing line-up
AAA most likely will give it a go tonight

that guy hates missing games. He might not be 100% but I’m sure he’ll start tonight

If he is not 100% he shouldn't guard Paul

Paul will eat him for lunch. Try Brewer on Paul.

I agree

but he’ll play if he can

So let me get this straight

The starting lineup, when everybody’s healthy, is supposed to be Lawson-Afflalo-Gallinari-Nene-Mozgov. And we might be missing four of those guys tonight?

For fuck’s sake.

On paper

it doesn’t look good.

"On paper...it doesn’t look good."

may look worse on court

Rough

Can’t wait for Gallo, Ty, and Nene to be back. And would be nice the sooner we can get Chandler.

While most everyone has been critical of Nene for his passive play, and rightly so, he actually can be a very good playmaker in the post, as he does create opportunities for the rest of the team. He is what he is, but they don’t have another player of his caliber at his position.

Very interested to see how many minutes Faried gets on Griffin tonight, and how they handle the pick and roll tonight.

Karl said yesterday

that they expect Gallo back soon after the ASG. Maybe not the first game back, but hopefully the second or third game.

Zhejiang Guangsha lost their first playoff game today 103-106

I believe the first round is best of 3, so Chandler could be free by Friday. Should have him back for the first game after the all star break.

Thanks for the update

Still it makes no sense… what exactly was the favor Guangsha management did him if he still has to wait for them to get ousted for his Letter of Clearance!

More likely to lose quickly

if he isn’t on the court.

heres hoping for an example of the ewing theory

everybody is out and they scratch together a win

Yes

and thankfully the one guy we do have is coming back from an injury and averages 15 minutes per start

I think faried can handle griffin

at least athletically, faried doesn’t lose out. how awesome would it be when griffin goes real high for one of his flashy dunks and faried meets him up there for an epic block.

I'd agree with this. Griffin isn't a post player who bodies you alot

he likes to coast on the wing and look for dunk opportunities. You just need to stay in front of him.

Faried just needs to out jump Griffin.

Every griffin dunk will be an offensive foul.

yes OKofA

The Faried-Griff match up is looking intriguing. But Nene played Griff pretty well. We’ll see.

Would have been nice to have had Wilson signed and ready to play tonight

but I guess there’s still a holdup there. We could use an extra body right about now.

Even if he signed today,

He’s not going to be eligible to play until after he gets his FIBA clearance

Plus, he needs at least some practice with the team

Probably see him after the ASG.

It's probably best he comes in when Gallo and Nene get back anyway

that way we set a consistent rotation off the bat

All those teams playing us in March

be prepared to be destroyed

JR didnt practice with the NYN and he still played i dont think he needs practice hes in game shape from playing in china
If I see another completely average dunk from Griffin on top-10 I am flipping shit

and by that meaning flipping the channel after a slight moan. Yes he can dunk hard but damn it’s not that incredible every time. Ahem…anyways, I want more Russian smash tonight

Hopefully the Nuggets' starting backcourt is good to go.

I don’t really think Paul was a, “no-show” last game, as referred to in the preview; AAA played great pressure defense on him, had him frustrated and making mistakes. Also, when CP3 was trying his Flop-City tricks, the referees weren’t giving him calls and it caused him to make some turnovers while expecting bail out whistles.

From Hooch
Benjamin Hochman @nuggetsnews
Hello from shootaround. Karl said Nene (calf) prob won’t play until after AS. Ty and Rudy are gametime decisions.
Just rest them

Start Stone, AAA, Hamilton, Faried, Mozgov

have Brewer, Dre, Al and Koufos off the bench

Karl start 3 rookies?

I think he would suit up before even considering that.

i pretty sure dre would start over stone but resting the other guys is prob the best thing for them
also i think al needs to have a rest i would just sit him for the next two games but it would prob piss him off

but hes an old man in the nba so going to best thing for the team rest him as well

We need to start Harrington and play him 48 minutes solid
Yes!
That is at SG by the way
I need my older players on the floor at all times. They are the only ones I trust.

So tonight I’m starting:

Harrington
Miller
Nene
Andersen
Fernandez

For the closers I will use:
Fernandez
Andersen
Nene
Miller
Harrington

ICWYDT
That symmetry thing is cool.

If it makes you feel any better if we still had Forbes I’d start him tonight.

Overtime

53 minutes.

My overtime lineup will be

Nene
Kmart
Chauncey
Bill Walton
Shawn Kemp

Totally unrealistic

only one guard?

Let me fix it

Chauncey, Ty, Dre, AC, and Kemp

Still a little tall for my taste

Maybe swap out Kemp with Kenny Smith.

How about chucky atkins and earl boykins?
I thought about 5

But I cant name five guards that are retired.

Missing the game tonight

And tomorrow’s game I’ll be on a plane to the bay area.

LAME.

Which Bay?

The bay area is pretty non specific. After the bay area, I’m headed to the land area!

There's really only one Bay Area

in the US that is also a major population center.

But, I’m going to San Francisco / Oakland / Berkeley for some music and political activism BS.

Don't get tased
It's not so bad, really

You just have to be careful not to chomp down on your tongue when all those volts are coursing through your body.

You sound like you've been playing

Ultimate Taser Ball

I know how it feels

to be certified with one, you must go through it

Do they let you wear a mouthpiece?

Not too long ago some crazy dude was running around my old neighborhood with a long knife, there was only one cop at the scene so I kind of blocked his way on the sidewalk until the cop told me to move.

Shortly thereafter another cop showed up and tased the dude. It was kinda funny, because he was screaming “You can’t hurt me! I’m super man! I’m invinci —” ZAP!

And down he went.

yeah i got the mouthpiece

longest 5 seconds of my life too. Complete body workout. The worst part though was the firefighters removing the two prongs.

Ow!

I’ve only ever been tased with the handheld ones. If I know it is coming, I can get all Zen-like and it just passes over me like a more pinchy electro-shock therapy.

But if I don’t know it is coming, you don’t even know what it is at first. So disconcerting.

Nope, I got the X26

check it on youtube. thing is not a joke

hahahhaha I'm sorry

But I just LOL’d in a training class reading this comment

I want to meet the creator of tasers

And find out what the hell was wrong with him to want to create something that shocks the shit out of people

Yeah, what was he thinking

Shooting people with guns was working just fine.

honestly

i would rather get shot and die than go through another 5 seconds of being electrocuted like that! Also, beanbags shot from shotguns are damn effective

They also hurt like hell and sometimes cause internal bleeding.

most less lethal weapons are pretty gnarly.

Just use good ole' beating batons...

Cheap and low tech

Beanbags won't stop

a 300 pound muscle head with roid rage.

Depends where you shoot em

get em in the groin and they go down. Tasers are effective, but from experience, they fucking suck!!!!!

So

you don’t want to be on the Stiffs ultimate taser ball team?

easy now

never said that, in fact, who else would you have as captain?

You want a list

of who I would most enjoy watch being repeatedly tasered?

YES!

as long as I am not on it

1) Karl Rove
2) Glenn Beck
3) George Karl
4) Tom Cruise
5) Ryan Seacrest

Add to this list

Lebron James
Russell Westbrook

west-brick

rick santorum
stephen a smith

Stephen A Smith is very annoying

I hate when him and Skip Clueless get together and talk about Tebow

How is Kobe absent from this list?
damn

new i forgot to add somebody. add in kobe, chris webber, and royce young

I kinda like Kobe

He can be a dick but he’s a straight shooter. Love him calling out the Lakers organization

Kobe is a great basketball player

That’s the only nice thing I have to say about him.

Kobe has some obvious flaws

but he isn’t afraid to tell it like it is. That is what I like about they guy.

IMO, he tells it like he believes it is

Not necessarily how it really is.

But I’ll just leave it at that :)

Well he has a point about Lakers management
Kobe is an amazing basketball player

Otherwise, I’m going to have to say he’s kind of a dick, given what I know about him.
Still, I love love love watching Olympic Basketball (Which is, by the by, the best exhibition of basketball ever made) and I love that Kobe is on my team

I've worked in the electrical trade in some capacity or another my whole life

It never feels good., I think its counter productive ass a police weapon, at least for me. Volts just make me even angrier

Ridiculous that mozgov is our only uninjured starter

Really hope Ty plays and we could use some Rudy though I would love to see jham come out with a bog game.

and he is recovering from injury still
luckily

he’s an MVP candidate

Small world and small minds

K-Mart’s “comments” are another example of how small the world it is and the minds in it can be. I think they are actually funny. The idea that Melo would have stayed in Denver if the “organization” was better is hilarious. The Denver FO tried incredibly hard to build a team around Melo (and K-Mart). Maybe they didn’t do the right moves, had bad luck and then in the end became dysfunctional as a FO might be all true, but the effort was there. Melo just wanted to move on to a big market. Pretty simple.

I think Denver got lucky with Ujiri hire and hopefully have a highly functional FO now. In fact they may be able to reach new heights of success off the foundation built by the “Melo era”.

K-Mart probably does have some bitter feelings and maybe rightfully so. He has always played on rage and anger, it is what motivates him. But the story was just another example of a reporter needling a player about a sore subject to get some juicy quotes.

In the end, it isn’t that big of a deal.

your post is worth of a column DJ
it's a joke

melo went to the most profoundly disfunctional organization in basketball, and was happy for them to gut their team to get him. Kmart is an idiot as usual.

Exactly

Melo was gone no matter what. This is why I can’t side w/ Kmart on these comments…if the organization was better blah blah blah…here’s one Kmart, maybe you should have earned your money and actually played the majority of the time. Don’t say that to him though, he might send goons into the stands to get you.

Great news people!

Today is national margarita day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does this mean I get a free margarita somewhere?
Not sure

But I have to go find somewhere to get one down here. Maybe Chili’s

That's what I was thinking. Maybe Chili's
Wait, you're in Peru and you're going to go to Chili's?

I’d think you’d want more of the local flavor.

Margarita

not from Peru. If i want a good one, have to go to Chilis or TGI Fridays

But still...Chili's? Bah..I am disappoint

Surely local yokels can make a margarita somewhere!

not a lot of tequila down here

main alcohol is Pisco.

Welp, there's your fortune

1) Import best tequila
2) Buy Triple Sec
3) Buy blender
4) Stand on street corner
5 PROFIT!

OMG

you are a genius! or i could sit at home and hold english lessons for $20 an hour per person to 4-5 people at a time. Plus, if I go outside, I am going to the beach

Get yourself a little kiosk

Stand on the beach and sell margaritas.

Switch that triple sec to grand marnier

Squeeze a lime and half a lemon and add a dash of apple juice (trust me) and you cant be beat!

Also lose the blender, rocks and salt.

i'd gladly sit with a cool pisco sour

on the beach in peru! pisco isn’t a bad alternative to tequila!

no it is not!

but had too much of it 2 weeks ago for the pisco festival

damn the pisco festival

sounds like you’re having a jolly good time! saludos!

i have been

its like a permanent vacation. just need the guy to come install air conditioning already

Neither

go to the mexican place downtown denver. Can’t remember the name.

But he's in Peru I'm pretty sure
d'corazon?

love and miss that place.

Benny's?

Not the best Margaritas, but they are inexpensive and good enough.

The Rio
The one in Boulder had to temporarily stop serving booze recently

for serving minors. Instead of pretending that people would come in for just their horrendous food, they shut down completely and gave everyone a vacation.

And about the games...

So the Nuggets have 2 games left before the all-star break. The past month has ground the Nuggets in the back of the pack in the Western Conference playoff hunt, but it has also let the bench players (esp the rooks) develop at a much faster pace. I have been impressed with how hard the team has played the last 3/4 games.

This will make the team much more dangerous post all-star break. Even if they can’t sneak a win out of the next two games.

For tonight, I think Ty will be a big loss if he is a no go. Clips are a bad defensive team, esp against dribble penetration. If he can’t go, the Nuggets need to turn it into a complete scramble game and hope they can turn the Clips over.

If that happens then there are going to be dunks galore. And probably the worst thing about tonight’s game? The Spurs are watching if from Denver. Sigh… it is a hellish February.

Faired posts 20-20 to ight in a win

Book it!

will do, Danno!
Really hope AAA gives it a go tonight

We need him on CP3. As for the starting lineup if Ty and AAA can’t go it should be

Miller
Hamilton
Brewer
Faried
Moz

Keep Al coming off the bench don’t start him

Miller
Brewer
Faried
Kouf
Moz

I mean no one could reliably score but who cares, rebounds baby!

I'll pass on that lineup
prediction

not that worried we will get mauled inside. My big concern is that again we’ll get killed from the outside and not match Clips outside shooters.

IMO Moz, KK, Faried will be OK inside but will our cast of perimeter defenders close on Clips shooters?

If everybody who's injured is out, Hamilton should get the start

GK has already given the other two rookies a shot to start so i think it should be Hamilton’s turn

this

Everytime JHam gets in the game, you see flashes of his ability to score, and if I’m not mistaken, I believe he’s our best 3 point shooter atm… A start could go a long way to boosting his confidence and hopefully he’d eliminate some of those rookie mistakes he makes everytime he’s in there for any extended period of time.

I hope not

I was really excited about JHam until he took that terrible shot in Monday’s game.

What was that? He was running away from the hoop, then spun around and launched a terrible 17-foot fade-away.

Who does that? Dipshits on the playground, that’s who. Not professional basketball players.

Was not surprised to see GK yank him real quick after that. Ugh.

He took that shot because he's a rookie

and rookies make mistakes. If everyone who is injured is out, I believe he should get the start. I don’t want to see a backcourt of Miller and Stone. Plus I want to keep Al on the bench so he can add the scoring punch with the second unit

Plus

everybody who’s currently on the team has had the chance to start a game. I think he should get his opportunity if AAA is out

I'm with ya brah..

We need to find someone to bury some buckets with all these injuries… he’s the last guy left to give an opportunity to.

You seem like the only one to agree with me on this

I’m just saying I don’t want Big Al to start. I would prefer him coming off the bench for us because we need a scoring presence coming off the bench

that was ugly..

You can tell he’s not totally comfortable when he’s out there, but again, I think with a confidence booster that garbage goes away…. that was pretty bad, though… almost looked like he thought he was closer to the basket and by the time he turned for the baby jump hook, he realized too late how far out he was… Still there’s no denying he shoots better than most of the guys we’ve been running out there lately.

Hamilton

He looks uncomfortable because he’s a rookie and not being able to work with the coaches in the offseason really hurt him. Plus, there was no summer league for him to play in also

Which is exactly why he shouldn't start

The regular season when you are a playoff team looking to get out of the first round isn’t where you develop rookies. It’s where you win as many games as possible.

Do I think JHan should get more playing time in light of the injuries? Hell yes. But start?

Nah.

let me ask you this fly

Who should start at the 2 guard if AAA’s out? I mean we started Stone for crying out loud. So I think it’s Hamilton’s time to get a start

As unseasoned as Stone is

He’s never been reckless with the ball.

I doubt Rudy and AAA will both miss tonight’s game. But, I suppose that if they do, you might just get your wish and I’ll be glad that I had to miss tonight’s game.

Well I'll be watching tonight unlike you fly

I don’t want to see Stone starting with Dre. He’s not a scoring threat. At least hamilton’s a scoring threat as unseasoned as he is

Stone shouldn't start

Because he will need to spell Dre.

Man, I hope Rudy or Trip can play.

I'm with you about hoping that AAA can play

not Rudy that much however. If AAA can’t play, Hamilton should get the start

look for dre to get ~45 minutes tonight.
i disagree

he will get himself ejected again to sit down

maybe he'll just chuck the ball at the ref like rondo

and get a few games off.

miller

I don’t think he has the temper like Rondo does. Maybe he’ll sprain his ankle since everyone is doing it

He doesn't ever jump so that is not a possibility
you never know

it could happen with everyone dropping like flies

I'd like to see Karl get ejected
What's wrong with starting?

If you think he should get more PT with the injuries, then what’s wrong with giving him a confidence booster by getting the start.. he can do much less damage by starting and getting yanked 5 minutes in, if he’s not contributing, than coming in late 3rd/early 4th quarter of a close game to give someone else a spell, ie the Timberwolves game.

I agree, what do we have to lose?

chances are we lose this game either way

OT:

does anybody else hate the new jack in the box commercial where the kid marries the burger? every time i hear or see it, i makes me want to stab something with a rusty spoon

This is why I don't won a television

And don’t listen to commercial radio.

Per Sam Amick

Chandler is still talking to Denver about a deal, but exploring other options as well. Another spike to someone’s roster coming.

Damn

If somesone offers him a boatload of money I just say let him walk

Only losing teams have the ability to offer him money, and Denver can still match
True

but I don’t want to pay someone $50 Mil to come off the bench

Dam that amick stirring up trouble
Of course Chandler's agent is saying that...pretty par for the course.
It's Toronto

I wondered why we haven’t heard this yet, since all the reports a few weeks ago were that they were going to throw crazy money at him. I’ve heard they could be willing to go to $9 per for him… but I’m not sure I believe that…

let him walk for $9 mil

not worth that. gallo isnt even worth that much yet

agreed

5-7 mil is just about right IMO

well he is probably gonna get that

even if we sign him to at 6-8 a year average, his contact will be back loaded since whatever he makes this year is pro-rated. No way he would want this year to be anything north of 4 million I’d think.

Could just be for leverage

He looks pretty comfortable hanging with the team in the locker room in this video.

http://www.nba.com/nuggets/video/2012/02/21/ChandlerVisit22012wmv-2010703/index.html

that's what I'm thinking
Knowing denver's luck so far

chandler is going to slip on a puddle and sprain his ankle as soon as he signs a contract.

That is funny!

It will probably happen. We’ve been cursed so far

Why? Why would you tempt the gods???
its not the Gods im worried aboutits

that damn pesky leprechaun.

tempting gods you lose your key player.

lose your entire starting lineup? thats just the Gods being total assholes.

And even more reason to not tempt them by mocking their smiting abilility
as Rams owner Stan Kroenke gets closer to buying the L.A. Dodgers.

According to the Los Angeles Times (via SportsBusiness Daily), Peter O’Malley has abandoned his bid to buy the team. Since O’Malley was one of 11 bidders to make the first cut, his departure drops the number of competitors to 10.

One of the 10 is Kroenke.

The group will be cut to five after a new wave of bidding. And then, after another round of bidding, a winner will be selected.
F.U.C.K.

I can’t have him owning my favorite basketball, hockey, and baseball teams.

to be fair

baseball isn’t really a sport. Outside of pitcher, everyone on here could play a full 9 innings right now and not be sore or injured tomorrow.

I could pitch a few innings
I agree and disagree

playing 162 games in 6 months is very hard on your body. by the way, this morning i tried out for a team here in Peru, about AA level, and made it as a starting pitcher. First time throwing hard in almost 2 years and i was clocked at 83!

Baseball isn't a sport?

I’m not even going to waste my time explaining why you are wrong.

I agree

baseball is awful. It’s excruciatingly boring to watch.

You know what you could do to make yourself feel better.

Root for the Rockies ;D

How is that remotely better?

My poor dodgers are bankrupt and had ownership battles/divorce and still had a better record!

Well you seemed to be upset

at the prospect of them being owned by Kroenke. If you think he’s tight with he Avs and the Nuggets. .imagine what he’ll do to the Dodgers..:). Although he technically doesn’t own the Nuggets anymore…..

I see him thinking of this as

an investment. TV rights coming up very soon worth billions of dollars. And hard to be tight when the current owner shelled out $160 million on Kemp

Ummm...go Celtics?
So my Gallo jersey just arrived

my parents tried to buy it at the Pepsi Center(was a bday gift) but they were sold out b/c a large group of Italians were at a game the week before and bought all of his gear(his mom was part of the group),..heh

That's funny. But Happy Birthday!
I was at the mall today

Got a Wilson Chandler shirt for $5 off the clearance rack. If he signs, I got a steal. If not, oh well.

okc down 10 early to the C's

other games on tap for tonight:
philly at houston (lets go philly)
utah at minny (not sure with who to go with here, but lets say… utah)
lal at dallas (as a rule of thumb, go dallas)

also, go nuggets d team!

OKC up by 1
make that 10
mine posted first

just refreshed the page

Did, and mine still shows up first

Call it simultaneous?

You both lose
I can't lose!

its national margarita day!

I think you two should fight to the death.

It’s the only way.

Not fair

for him that is

I only do it if we can fight to the music

from the Spock/Kirk fight from “Amok Time”

and on Vulcan

Vulcan doesn't exist anymore
Depends on your view of Quantum Physics

If you hold to the multi-verse interpretation of quantum actions, then there could be a plethora of Vulcans, just waiting for me and AoN to get drunk on ’ritas and fight to the death on :p

Ok

I have to go to Chili’s to catch the game tonight and drink margaritas, so hows post game interview sound to you?

Will you guys be on Skype and will you be

clothed? Because a little Spartacus: Vengeance style throwdown will be alright by me.:)

Well

after a few margaritas, i may or may not be fully clothed. its 8pm and still 88 degrees, so leaning on the latter.

Sure...you wanna hitch a ride to Vulcan?
How far away is that?

Also, will I earn frequent flier miles?

Only if you survive the teleporter
Sweet!

I’m down! If I haven’t been killed thus far in life, a teleporter has nothing on me!

Well except for

the whole atoms not being reconfigured part

About 60 light years, so you should have a free trip to

Majorca waiting when we get back

I'm going by Star Trek -2009. That's canon in my head.
Heretic!!! :p
Oh like I haven't heard THAT before
That is still hundreds of years in the future
Yeah but I saw it implode Sunday night
Well, I'm convinced that

the Roddenberry Trekverse is contemporaneous with ours, and the Abrams Trekverse is the alternate time line

I like the alternate time line

as long as I’m 10 years younger :P

Hmmm this makes sense
Go Magic!!!!
Jameer Nelson is having a good game so far!
Magic destroying the Nyets
JR with 2 steals in 4 min
3 steals
4 steals in 6 min

and only 1 three atempted

Reverse dunk by Swish!!!!!

Damn I miss those

i thought rudy would bring those....
Rudy? A dunker?
he was in the dunk contest once

haha

Was it a better outing than Birdman's?
it was pretty good

it took him longer than the allowed time but they let him keep going anyways

why isnt faried in the dunk contest
he plays for denver
The dunk contest participants are lackluster to say the least
not enough PT this season

he’ll be in it next year FOR SURE

Pau sabotaged him.

yup seen videos of miller-rudy reverse dunks.
Best joke of the thread
The nuggets obviously have half court plays

Why dont they use them late in the game? are they panicked? or does GK prefer one on one play… confused

At the point when we need them

GK has his head buried in his hands

This is true haha

But at the end of the game against OKC when we were up 111-109 miller actually walks in the middle of the court and tells everyone to stand still to waste time… direct orders from GK hahaha

Tonight, I think we need a Surprise for the Clippers

His name is kenneth
What's his frequency?
haha good song
Well I'll be surprised if we win
if we can somehow stop the 3 point shot... if ty plays we have a shot...
if we hit 50% or better on 3s

we have a chance. If we go 3-17 or something terrible like that, no chance.

I hope hamilton gets a shot... he can shoot just has to be locked in on D
he should get his chance tonight

we’re gonna need some shooting

Thanks for nothing Celtics. I hate you even more now.
If anything,

this game should show us a little more clearly how well the Nugs played in Sunday’s game. The Celtics – for all their “big three” – can’t even hang with the Thunder. We could (should) have won the game without much of our core group.

agreed

if we had our best defensive unit on the floor the final 50 seconds of the game, we win.

K-mart vs MANIMAL
can't wait
prob better than softy vs kmart
OKC is beating the tar out of Boston
Boston has no tar left :p
WTF Fox Sports West. Not carrying the Clips game tonight?

POKER? POKER? F that

I like poker...
It's NOT A SPORT!!!!!
indeed, it fails to qualify on one of two prerquisites to be a sport

It is not physically exerting

never said it was
But it shouldn't be on the Fox SPORTS channel.....
Shut up Durant

Your team is winning by 30 and you’re going to gripe about a bad foul call???? STFU

have to respect him... better than all other SF's in this league
Lebron

is still the better all around player IMO

I disagree

Still not near LeBron. Scoring wise he is better, but everything falls short

ehhhhh

Im not quite ready to give him the edge over Lebron

No I really don't
Close though, won't be the better passer lebron is

but durant gets it done in the 4th quarter

LeBron does too

unless its a 4th quarter in the Finals

With the help of officiating

/still bitter

yup those 4th quarters make me sick

not as bad as game 5 of the playoffs though… i cant even talk about that

Yeah....
did you ever see the video of afflalo crying after...
No, I don't think I could take it
This is almost as bad as the Blazers/Spurs game last night.

I have to deal with Ralph Lawler…..

I feel truly sorry for you.

I wonder if he’ll make any racist remarks during tonight’s broadcast.

Better than “OH ME OH MY!!!”

But at least you get to see the game....
You just need to move back to Colorado, obviously
Or do as I do

go to Chili’s

This.

Either that or watch it on my laptop

and my internet sucks

Well there are ways I can watch

but I have such a nice TV , seems like a shame.

I do too

but no Directv yet.

Boston coming back?
Take out 35 and 0.

They’re all a bunch of stiffs.

They are within 60!!!!

Never thought that was possible!!

false hope, they always come back but end up losing
In my best dr evil voice

J.R. Smith fined one million dollars! for skipping practices.

Weren't games over there practice for him?
Huh?
Yeah

CBA fined JR yesterday for skipping practice

I'm pretty sure JR just said

PRACTICE!! You’re talking to me about PRACTICE!! PRACTICE?!!

Oh A.I. I do miss you

But were the games nothing more than practice for him?

He was shooting and scoring at will over there in games

I dunno
made 14 of 18 threes in a game

thats practice, not a game

But I made the Allen Iverson obvious practice joke. :(
i know

but fining someone a million dollars for not practicing but scoring 60 pts in a game makes no sense

I'm sure he can afford it
One third of his salary

I doubt j.r. has more money in the bank than I do. In a few years he will be like a.I.

Money in da bank!

not something i am used to having

I think that's a pretty unfair critique to level on JR

is there any evidence to support your position? Unless of course you are worth tens of millions of dollars

Did you read the stories out of china?

He was spending money hand over fist, and supporting multiple people living with him. We have seen this story before.

But that doesn't mean it will have the same outcome.

Perhaps he’s invested his money wisely and can afford to spend like he was. I just think it’s unfair to assume it will end up the same way.

Knuckleheads gonna knucklehead
MVK! MVK! MVK!

It was only a matter of time.

Garbage time in the Knicks game

how many daggers to expect?

Boston within 11
I know

its like no one…

I hate late tipoffs
Late? It's only 6:30 here :P
Just because you live in an inferior time zone,

shouldn’t mean us here in the best one have to suffer :p

If by inferior better then I agree!
Inferior:
1. Low or lower in order, degree, or rank: Captain is an inferior rank to major.
2.
a. Low or lower in quality, value, or estimation: inferior craft; felt inferior to his older sibling.
b. Second-rate; poor: an inferior translation.
3. Situated under or beneath.
4. Botany Located below the perianth and other floral parts. Used of an ovary.
5. Anatomy Located beneath or directed downward.
6. Printing Set below the normal line of type; subscript.
7. Astronomy
a. Orbiting between Earth and the sun: Mercury is an inferior planet.
b. Lying below the horizon.
n.
1. A person lower in rank, status, or accomplishment than another.
2. Printing An inferior character, such as the number 2 in CO
Well then LOOK HOW WRONG YOU ARE!
Lol

Vanilla Gorilla Pryzbilla signs with the Blazers again

Hoch tweeting no Ty tonight
we will not win this game
Take your negativity elsewhere

This means lots of minutes for Stone and Hamilton

Ty lawson is the fuel to this team without gallo and nene

Or 35 minutes of Dre and Buck.

CLASSIC reverse jinx.
Refs bailing out okc

again. Shocker

I'm just stunned! ;p
And Celtics are just shunned
Officiating is way sketchy in this game...on both ends

So where the hell were those calls against us?

saving them up for this game, obv

Go Zebras!!

one way or another

Zebras will win

JR with 6 steals tonight

couple good dunks too. Still 5 min of garbage time to be played

Happy anniversary for NY today. What about us?

NO TY
NO NENE
NO GALLO
Rudy is questionable.
AA is hurt.

A lot of blowouts tonight around the league

GS up by 17 after 1 quarter

They're playing Phoenix...great match up for them if their shots are falling from 3.

But I bet that they give up the lead and it’s a close game in the 4th

BTW Cat

Did you try Prime Ticket?

Nevermind, they got Poker.

I don't have that channel :(

Just Fox Sports West

Looks like somebody doesn’t want you to see K-Mart.

Well

I’ll find a way

The imagination is a powerful tool

so I’ve heard

She knows that.

Anyone have any preference in the Lakers/Mavs game?

I really have no idea who I should want to win

Meteor is the only option
I like Dirk, and that's it.
No matter which team lose, it`s good news for us.

Marlowe on Clippers Live

AND IT’S NOT A DEMISE!!

AFFLALO!!

Is he playing?

He’s in, but he’s wearing a baby blue buttoned shirt for his interview.

Koz tweet:
Official starters: Brewer/ Faried/ Mozgov/ Afflalo/ Miller…..Butler/ Griffin/ Jordan/ Foye/ Paul
Official starters: Brewer/ Faried/ Mozgov/ Afflalo/ Miller…..Butler/ Griffin/ Jordan/ Foye/ Paul
Mozgov

He needs to play huge for us like he did the first game in LA. I hope Karl plays him more than 8 minutes

If he produces, he'll play...contingent on his ankle and fitness in coming back
true

but he can’t produce if he only plays 8 minutes

true
Moz

I just would like for him to play in the 2nd and 4th quarters as well. Karl yanks him 5 minutes into the first quarter and 3 minutes into the thrid quarter never to return to the game. He won’t get better if Karl keeps toying with him like this. He does have a nice jumper as well

Against OKC, K2 produced a lot in the first half but didn`t get one minute in the second.

You`ve never known what is in Karl`s head.

Gotta make sure them leprechauns are away from him.

Another Koz tweet:
Here is what Andre Miller said to get ejected in the last game. “You guys are whack.”

lol

God knows what Kmart would’ve said.

"Get your shit outta here"
Well played rec
"mmm know what i'm sayin?"
Are you making fun of his

stuttering issue?

That’s when he’s in a good mood.

Wow. That is some seriously offensive verbiage there
That is stupid

Kobe, Durant, Rose and the other “superstars” could probably call the referees everything under the sun without getting ejected

Game Plan.

Make CliP3 play hero.

First half thread up

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