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Mavericks vs. Nuggets: Second half thread

Dallas leads 64-53 at the half, the Nuggets showed a couple signs of life that they are still in fourth place out West and in the playoff hunt ... where is the energy this Denver team had just a little over a week ago?

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Put in the Manimal

its Denvers only chance….

First?
Epic failure
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Nope
We cool?

I was having the worst night of my life the other day. Was being an A-hole. Sorry

We had a problem? I don't even remember
I was Be@%#cthing about all the OT in Game thread
Oh. that. Meh. It's all good.
Dallas keeps playing the Box plus 1 zone I was talking about this afternoon

Mad e me laugh when I saw it

seems like teams are playing hard/crowded defense in the paint, and daring Denver to take jumpshots and threes. If only this team could hit some quality jumpshots and three pointers

We really need someone to make some jump shots.

Dallas will continue to pack the lane and daring the Nuggets to shoot until we do.

The worst that could happen

is for George to put guys in that might provide some energy. That would suck.

Harrington starting the 3rd
Al hit a jump shot!!!!
We simply are not covering anyone at the 3pt line
Who's going to be worse in the NBA,

Zeller or the Plumlees?

Is that a band?
AAA. down by 10 now!
AAA Finally!
Lawson gets fouled more than anyone who doesn't ever get a foul call
Well that was fun for like 3 seconds

I was optimistic for a nano second

2nd half thread canceled due to lack of interest

Until we re-discover our defensive presence, this is what we're gonna see.

I’m not sure if it’s the injuries, the schedule, or what, but we’ve completely fallen apart on defense. We don’t rotate, don’t fight over screens – or hedge out strong. We look lazy and lost.

AAA finding his stroke?
He has as many points tonight

as the sum of his points for the entire season prior to tonight. Way to go man!

Again, no rotation.

Their offense is not complex. They just set strong screens, and we’re doing nothing to get over them

No effort on D
Am I alone in here now?
Where did everyone go? LOL
watching Modern Family
Man, I would love to draft

any of the UNC or Kentucky starters. A few Duke players as well.

So would George
Nah

They are all too tall.

but but but UNC!
Kendall Marshall could probably play center.
LOL.

One year I have no problem with his UNC obsession.

Rudy, Rudy, Rudy!!!!
RT @SpearsNBAYahoo: RFA Wilson Chandler plans to re-sign with Nuggets once he returns from China, his agent Chris Luchey told Y! Sports.
I wait to hear from Hochman
ILL WILL coming back!
Restricted free agent forward Wilson Chandler plans to re-sign with Nuggets once he returns from China, his agent Chris Luchey told Y!Sports
yay?

Can he come in tonight and make a jump shot? Maybe play defense? Rotate to the open man?

we need SOMETHING different to shake things up!
We need his shooting!
Can they get the lead down to under 10 pts?
Sure but will they keep it that way?
for about 15 seconds :p
Boy

That Delonte west sure can dribble.

Yup, ask Lebron's Mom

BOOYAH

I was gonna say, wow he must be old
Hey guys

did you miss me?

How can we miss you if you won't go away?
That's not nice cat
I'm just kidding.
what is happening here?
ummm...not a whole lot
I start watching the game again and the Nuggets go on a 8-0 run?
shhh don't scare it
Definitely keep watching, then.
Now make your free throws al
lol lamar odom what a below average player

and married to the below average looking Kardashian

Quit it

It’s hard being a Wookie…

Fuck the KarKrashians

I think everyone has

Maybe we can get Mugsy Bogues and Spud Webb out of retirement and go real small

Kouf

koufos with the spectacular goaltend!

Make a stop!!!!!
Please to be blocking out

thank you

Why is Rudy guarding Dirk?
Karl believes in Euro on Euro action
Cos he's also European
Bad D, no rebounding, and the comeback is erased
definitely not erased
still no excuse to let the one Mav down low outrebound the 3 Nuggets under the basket
Watching the Dallas feed (it's complicated)

you guys just missed the grossest commercial ever.

Oooh

Please elaborate.

Selling a Texas-Toast double cheesburger

with a Texas-twang.

Also, “special sauce,” all complements of What-a-burger.

What? A Burger?

Al asks

13-4 in the last 2+ minutes

Nuggets still alive!

On a lighter note

Is there really a suckier team than Dallas.

The returning NBA champs and they can’t even put half a team away for good.

AAA making a drive, and not fumbling the ball away!!!
afflalo made points?
for us?
I think lemme check the replay
Come on guys!!!!
at least the clipps lost to the cavs
and the Cavs without Irving too.
People say Kardashian

I think of Cardassian…

ha, rec'd for truth
Me too!

Gul Ducat was my favorite nerd villain ever!

You apologize right now to Cardassian. No seriously. Right now
Dukat was a sonaofbitch though!
But he doesn't deserve to be called a Kardashian.
Our PnR defense sucks
Miller has be very quiet tonight
That was an ugly sequence, right there
umm what the hell was that?
wow wright with the biggest flop
Man...the refs really suck ass
Big Al is in the doghouse now.
Why?
Letting Dirk steal it from him.

George took him out immediately after it.

Could be that he recognizes his top bench scorer is tired

And needs a rest since he’ll need him out there for closing time.

You never know with the Rager
Of course not

Still I find the immediate speculation that it is something negative to be a bit, um, pessimistic.

I don't follow
You said Al was in the dog house

And I think it could be that he is just tired.

Running up and down the court tends to wear you out. You make mistakes.

If GK is angry at anyone, it should be himself for leaving Al out there while tired, which is when mistakes and mental errors happen.

I was quoting the guy on the radio
I didn't know that.

Without quote marks, I have to figure it is you.

The guy on the radio might be wrong. He might be right.

Are you a philosopher or somethin?

Might be wrong, might be right.

Oh so Dallas can do that but Rudy can't??
What the fuck rudy reestablished

Fuckin refs

Hey bout offensive rebounds? Just sayin
FMITFGA
you button-hooked me
I can figure it all out

except the last two letters.

last two are "goat ass"
That thing is fucking pointy
I love how Mahimi can "roll" to the basket while hugging the man he picked,

and it never gets called

I will never understand NBA officiating
I just dont understand why they dont use replay more often
What's to understand?

Close your eyes, blow your whistle randomly, and point to the superstar :p

There's probably more Tim Donaghy's out there officiating
this team is so

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mark Cuban was telling the truth
What. the Fuck was that?
... sigh ...
How many attempts and rushed shots and then an idiotic foul?

/smh

what the fucking fuck
i guess its shit on denver year
Not running at all

and our half-court offense sucks.

Dallas has no reason to guard us on the perimeter, so they don't
this is CRAY

how can this team just not shoot! These are not bad players! They are getting good shots!

I don't want AAA attempting eight 3 pointers
The team as a whole has lost confidence in their ability to hit open jump shots.

You could see it in that sequence which ended with K2’s “offensive foul.” Ty then AAA, then Ty, then Nene all passed up open shots before Nene fumbled it to Kw on the layup. They really need to make some to get their confidence back

We need JR back
let's start a campaign

Bring back JR and Fire Karl

Where's Nene

Anyone seen him in the 4th?

has he been playing at all?
yeah he's been out there
vince carter is looking like his prime
Guarded by a guy 2 inches and 50 pounds smaller.
Man what the fuck happened to the Nuggets??
Can't shoot, don't rotate on D, no hustle.
injuries and poor coaching
I've carefully considered it

and I’ve decided to panic.

Scott Foster should never ref another game ever again.
wasn't he the same douche

that called that goaltend in the thunder blazer game?

When was the last time we made both free throws?
team

doesn’t look like they believe. Freakin Tony Allen. The team hasn’t looked the same since he just BULLIED them out of a win.

I really hope that our record before the injuries wasn't a fluke.

Chandler is good, and he’ll help, but if we’re really just not that good of a team he isn’t going to save us. We have a lot to lose in the next month before Gallo gets back.

We are about to lose our record

The Nuggets is the only team in the NBA who has not lost 4 games in a row since 2006. Dang, that was a nice one to have.

The Nuggets are an amazing 50% FT shooting team.

I especially like when our PG and SG can only make 1 0f 2.

and officially turned it off
Rec. Same.
Me three
me four
I'm watching til the bitter end
eh my streak of having seen at least one half of every nuggets game so far stays intact
Well that was fun
I love the Nuggets but the officiating is making it tough to watch
I think that the NBA should either hire more refs,

or just simply fire all they have right now and bring up high school dads who ref their kids games on the weekends. Can’t be worse than the debacle that reffing has been this year.

Man, Austin Rivers game winner.

Doc Rivers was so stoked haha.

whats the one thing you learn as a kid follow your shot?
Does any big man have the ball knocked out of his hands

more than Nene?

Dirk just passed Adrian Dantley on the all time scoring list

puts him at #21.

Karl just surrendured
man

good teams can play despite some bad calls. But neither the team nor the refs are even giving us a chance. I’m out.

This game is over and the refs are still calling against the Nuggs

Man, let it die already!

Not sure why that posted twice.
Hang in the Nugget nation

I’m taking a vacation from Denver stiffs…talk to you when Chandler comes back!

Whaaaa? :( Have fun
Wow Matrix, haha.
2 things. 1) it is bad when you are rooting for it to be within the last two minutes of a half

so that the ref’s can get a call correct, and 2) when is g.k. going to realize that meticulous coaches like carlisle game plan more for his idiotic tendencies than for those of our players?

Ummm...for most of the past 5 years, Denver has owned the Mavs.

I don’t think that they are the best example to use to denigrate Karl’s coaching.

ummm, have you watched the last 7-8 games?

i’m referring to carlisle being meticulous and not missing something so obvious as his trend to go small and making an utter mockery of it in the pick and roll.

and don't forget

Carlisle is a better kicker too!

that too!

anyone hear al’s interview praising carlisle and seemingly every other coach he’s played for BUT karl last week?

Yeah

there’s a reason for that

And I'm saying that for all his meticulous planning,

in the past, he has not shown the ability to exploit the weaknesses of Karl’s coaching. Yes, I have watched the last 7-8 games, and yes, I too have seen that we cannot defend the PnR, shoot jump shots, or rotate to the open man. The Mav’s offense tonight was not designed specifically to take advantage of the Nuggets weakness, it’s the same offense they’ve run for years, which Karl has shown a propensity for beating.

in years pased karl did not utilize the 5 pg lineup the way he is this year!

forget about what happened when melo was on the team, or when we had 15 players at our disposal to open the year. like it or not he has 11 now, sorts out the shortest 5 and goes with them at any opportunity he gets.

the mav's don't generally have the luxury of running a pick and roll that consistantly puts dirk on

a fucking 2 guard. that was game planning specifically for karls deficient size.

Honestly, I would like our PnR defense to be better,

but to the Mavs credit, in the fourth, when Denver hedged and recovered well, Dallas would patiently reset and run the PnR again…and again, until either the guard came free, or they got the switch on Dirk. Also, for all the talk of the Mavs being a soft team (I know this somewhat disappeared last year), tonight every single player on their roster set harder, more solid screens than I’ve seen from any player on the Nuggets this year (or for many years, tbh).

and the success of their p&r had NOTHING to do with the fact that they outsized us on the switches?

DESPITE having very good and sizeable players at karl’s disposal should he decide for the first time all year to not be stubborn?

and you don't think the fact that the nuggets always roll before setting a screen

is karls strategy? he has said as much in interviews.

And I hate it :)
If you read what I wrote,

I was saying that even when we did play good PnR D, the Mavs were patiently persistent, executed extremely well, and got what they wanted. Listen, I’m not a Karl apologist. I have plenty of issues with the things he does. However, I am willing to concede that he most likely knows a hell of a lot more about the game than I will ever know. And I also have no idea what he does in practices: how he handles them, if he teaches, etc.

i did read what you wrote, thuis my counter that karl putting midgets on the court plays right into the mavericks plan

on the p&r.

i’m not going to pretend to know anything i don’t but i’m not going to spout off about something i don’t.

The PnR was with Nene and Rudy

6’11" (kinda) and 6’5"…not exactly midgets

Karl has always played small ball.

And I know you are exaggerating. Listen, I’m not happy about the way things are going either. I am not sure what the answer is. What I do know is that clamoring for something that is not going to happen (i.e. a change at the coaching position) just makes this board more divisive than it should be, imo.

he has always played small ball. but he's always had a "star" on the court while doing so

there is a reason small ball “all of a sudden” is not working. he’s not going to get “star” whistles so what he does is handicap his players by forcing them to go up against players taller than them KNOWING that even if they get fouled it is not going to be called. if that won’t fuck up a jump shot i don’t know what well, and lets not even delve into the problems this causes on the boards.

guess what? the opposing coaches are on to this, of course g.k. is about to say how it is all the players fault.

shit k.k. is playing well. better take him out and put al in.

before it was kmart switchin to perimeter guy and meIo on dirk, not fernandez and nene.
Karl is an idiot

that is all

Hey nuggets GO work on your fucking Shooting pls
Don't forget to listen to George Karl post game interview

950 AM.

Hell no

I’m not listening to that moron

If you want to understand your enemy

You have to study him.

I've studied him plenty

plus he will just have some moronic excuse and throw someone under the bus

On the plus side, the Rockets are blowing out the Blazers at the Rose Garden
That's a wow

Rockets must be pumped because Houston is going to host the all-star game.

I'm watching The Association again....
When is the next one on?
Next week I think
I know we all have issues with Karl's coaching,

some more than others, but when no one – and I do mean no one – on your team can consistently hit open jump shots, it’s handcuffing for a coach.

Look on the bright side

their are teams that have it worse than us. the Hornets come to mind

Yeah but George

needs to get these guys motivated. We have too many poor starts to games

I thought that having a deep bench was supposed to be a motivating factor

George said “if you don’t hustle, there’s another guy who will take your minutes.”
Since he’s not following his own advice, can we have Melvin Hunt take George’s minutes?

To be fair he gave Stone a chance to start

Stone played 7 minutes and did not attempt a shot.

It might be a start but I don't consider it to be

when stone only plays 7 minutes

How long should he have played?
at least 15
I would have preferred to see those 15 at guard

and not at small forward. Why couldn’t Faried get some burn at Forward? Psssh, George….

I willnever understand the man
isnt that one of supposed to be one of his strong points, use his bench to get guys to pIay hard.
3 Observations.

1. Nene is a pussy. A very, very rich pussy.
2. Afflalo has regressed in every aspect except for his pocketbook.
3. George Karl has coached far too many games to look this terrible.

Well said NuggBuckets

I couldn’t agree with you more

Our Team is Broke Right Now

That was some pretty ugly basketball, and the last 5 games have looked a lot like this. Little energy, poor shooting, no movement on offense, lousy defense, and just overall flat play. Sure we miss Gallo and Mozzie, but Nene, AAA , Dre, and Ty are not doing much to pick up the slack. What happened to the hustling defense? What happened to the motion offense? What happened to all the great passing and team work? Hate to pile on, but they look lousy, even at home, and more and more seats are empty at Pepsi Center….

I don't think there's a winnable game in February

Schedule and injuries have just doomed us. I just don’t know if I can watch this train wreck.

Well no one is gonna make ya...
I will watch this train wreck until the bitter end

because I’m a die hard fan

I know the feeling.
We May Soon Go to Top 3 in the Power Rankings to out of the Playoffs. . crazy....
Just think if we can make the playoffs

Starting

Mozgov
Nene
Gallo
AAA
Ty

Bench
K2
Harrington
Chandler
Rudy
Miller

that’s pretty damn good if we somehow stay alive for the playoffs

If we went to the playoffs right now we would play Dallas

I like those odds.

Statistically it is not as bad as it seems.

Of all the stats, 2nd chances, fast break points, free throws attempted and made, etc the only one that was of any significant difference was that dallas got 18 more shots from the floor than Denver. This is mainly due to a lack of a steady scorer.

It’s not like Dallas (last years champs) kicked our butts.

The two big issues for me are

Giving up offensive rebounds and giving up wide open 3’s. If we can clean up those two things (and make some shots) we will be fine

No no no no.

Those extra shot attempts are stupid turnovers because nobody is moving and people (Nene) watching rebounds as they fall into the other teams hands. Extra possessions are almost always hustle stats.

Rockets outscored Porland in the 3rd quarter

30 – 18

Hand Down, Man Down

Another night where the opposing it scorching hot from outside and that is no accident. The Nuggets rotations are all screwed up, and too often they are too late running at a wide open shooter. It’s like target shooting for the opposing teams right now.

The Nuggs won a lot of games last year with great hustle and I just don’t see it right now.

Tomorrow night will be a challenge

The warriors have some snipers on the perimeter. It could get ugly if we don’t have good rotations

On the other hand,

they don’t play any defense, so maybe we could get some confidence back. I really think that the team’s confidence is at an all time low as far as shooting, and because they’re not shooting well, they appear to be a half step slow in every aspect of the game. I’m sure a lot has to do with injuries and fatigue, but we really cannot use that as an excuse.

The warriors might not play D

but they still scare the hell out of me

agreed...Did you see Ellis just go off on the Thunder last night?

They still lost, but dayum!

Ellis is a beast

48 points. they had a stretch in the 3rd quarter where they couldn’t miss

Ugh

It’s frustrating watching the team now. It’s not the losses, but the terrible perimeter defense, bad effort on the glass, and relatively stagnant and boring offense.

On the bright side, we’d have the 19th pick if the season ended today. Woo!

The Poor Effort is Particularly Frustrating Since they were rested tonight. . .Is the team tuning Karl out??
We are pathetic at home right now .. . no effort, poor fan support, empty seats, UGLY
I believe

they are tuning him out.

Nuggets are playing scared

Scared they’re going to get hurt, scared they’re going to get tired and hurt, scared they’re going to get in foul trouble and not have enough guys to finish a game. Scared of playing period. No one will admit it though.

Where's that guy that predicted we would go 5-0 on our last long road trip? We need him to rally the team again :)
It's a girl, and she's around

SDCat

Cool!! Rally that team again for us!
Well guys

I’m going to go play some NBA 2K12 in a couple minutes. At least the Nuggets win when I play that game

Murphy's Law in Effect..

I am sure everyone is crushing the Nuggets. They deserve it right now. Just not playing with confidence. Look tired and frustrated. This rough patch is either going to make the team closer, stronger and better. Or they are going to implode and the season is lost.

Hope the bottom has been reached.. but you never know when you have Murphy’s Law rolling.

Grind on tomorrow.

True

better to implode now than in the last month of the season.

Say what you want about rudy fernandez, but he played with something the team didnt have

EMOTION

He did,

I would say that the rest of the team played with one emotion – frustration.

I'm still convinced that we let shitty officiating

get in our heads, and then missing shots on top it sends us into meltdown mode.

That said.

I think we will win tomorrow.

Ya officiating was terrible

Rudy just said in postgame interview "we down 8 but the faces are we down by 20, we just have to fight

Missed shots more than officials..

It is not a good sign when everyone starts passing up wide open shots. Whole team was too pass happy. Definitely a frustrating game, just never could get over the hump.

Any win is needed right now.

the only guy who wasnt passing up shots was afflalo, he was 2/8 from 3 point land

awful

Corey Brewer needs to come back soon

With the death of his father a few days ago he can play off of high emotions which could be contagious

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