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Warriors vs. Nuggets: Second half thread


Thoughts about the second half should be placed delicately in here. Be careful.

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first

softly..like Nene

Charmin

soft tp

First real comment

Good end to the second quarter, I feel that Golden State is not adjusting to us taking our man one on one and relying too much on weak side defense.

This man knows how the game is played.
Nene has been soft

and my comment is apropos of Jeff’s request.

Are you excited that the new Walking Dead season will have 16 episodes?
You mean this season. The remaining 10?

I will be excited if they continue on a good track after the mid-ish season finale.

Season 3 hasn't came out though?

Am I missing something?

Were you talking about Season 3?

I didn’t know that.

I was

I just hope they get off the damn farm already.

If they don't they might lose my viewership
Oh, and come on Boston

Beat the Lakers. I forgot how much I realized I dislike that team ever since they beat us.

I liked our offense, but I would really like to see us step up on the PnR defense.

We’re not hedging strong, waaaaay to soft a show on a lot of them (I’m looking at you, Nene)

I think either Faried or K2

Need to be on the court at all times to gobble rebounds.

That's kooky talk

They aren’t point guards or Rudy.

How did GK's spirit come to posses Kevin No. 1?

So confused! Did they bump heads? Was their lightning when they were pissing in the same fountain?

Laugh all you want

But I’m a trendsetter.

I hate it when the Celtics play the Lakers

No matter who wins, I lose.

Pretty much this
I root against the Lakers harder than I root against the Celtics
Didn't John Kerry say

“I rooted for the Celtics before I rooted for the Lakers”

very funny, that's why we got an AWOL sack of hammers for pres
That

is the best description I have ever heard for W.

I can't stand either

But I guess I’ll root against the Lakers.

:shudders:

Just root for the Celtics

Because the Celtics record does not really apply to us and the Lakers are competition for standings.

I always, always root for the meteor.
You must be a huge Michael Bay fan, eh?
Not particularly

But I have enjoyed some of his films..

Especially when it's a game in Boston or NY.
I like the Celtics
Exit left ;)

I keed! I keed!

Back in the day.......

It was an easy choice. GO LAKERS!
Now. It’s like Mike Tyson looking at me and saying “Head or Gut”!

Man, the Bos/LA game is ugly basketball
Maybe I missed this

but when did we hire Ryan Bowen as a coach?

Ryan Bowen being interviewed

I tried so hard to get a Bowen jersey in high school. haha

Who is he and why do we care?
He used to play for the Nuggets, Hawks, Okc and a few other teams.
He was the token energy-guy-off-the-bench

back when I was in high school

Former Nugget player

Think Birdman without any basketball talent at all

And Birdman never had that much to begin with

I feel like Bowen just did sprints everywhere.

SMH
That was helpful. Thank you!
No problem

How long you been watching the Nuggets? 2 years? 3?

I watched the Nuggets before you were even a zygote
Maybe he's a test tube baby
Could be but my point still stands
I think even test tube babies were zygotes :p
GK doesn't understand what a zygote is

Or how to rotate players.

I think the point is

A test-tube zygote could be frozen, and thus nullify Cat’s point.

No my point is that I have watched the Nuggets

many many many years.

And if the zygote

was frozen before you started watching the Nuggets, well, then your point is nulled and voided.

This is highly unlikely
Of course!

Ridiculous off-topic tangent is ridiculous, as you like to say.

There is no meiosis in test tube babies

They are nurtured into blastocysts prior to insemination.

I admit

I get impressed easily by big words.

Meiosis is cell division for eukaryotes

Blastocyst means living cell.

Insemination means ….

Uh, no.

Meiosis is the process by which haploid gametes (sperm and egg cells) are formed. A blastocyst arises, via mitosis (not meiosis), after fertilization, from a diploid zygote, whether that be in vitro or in vivo. With a “test tube baby” a zygote is nurtured, in vitro, into a blastocyst prior to implantation, not insemination.

Yeah, but stasis is never the best route to go.

You want fresh zygotes! FRESH!

To be fair

Bowen wasn’t that memorable of a player

He is going to be our head coach one day.

Today he is the video editor, tomorrow head coach. Worked for Spoelstra.

Oh shut up

Dude was better than any preceding or proceeding stiff that ever played.

He made Malik Allen’s stiffness seem minimal.

Thank you!

Bowen was loved by many here. He hustled. Was nice.

All without any scary tattoos.
Hey Bird's tattoos aren't scary!
Pretty sure they frighten me
o/\o (high five)

I also wanted a Tskita jersey, but it wouldn’t have been the same.

Oh I loved watching him play

but that doesn’t mean he was all that significant in Nuggets history

Says you, Emerson.
Fair enough

if/when he becomes head coach I’ll eat my words :)

Bad to mediocre players often make good coaches
Yeah, look at george karl
I actually bet Bowen would be a good one

Kind of a Bzdelick type.

Wait...Nene soft?

I saw the Nene throwing down dunks and going 5/5 for 12 points in 16 minutes.

Nene can be soft yeah but he isn’t tonight. What game are those people watching?

Also Manimal with 8 points and 7 (!) rebounds in 12 minutes. PLAY HIM

He got sent to the line twice

Both could have been an and-1 if he went for the dunk.

I’m not complaining. Just saying, missed shots when a foul occurs doesn’t count against shooting stats.

But you know that.

I just like to overexplain and use carriage returns.

I just needed something to make my first comment count
Thank you swats

unbelievable comments on here sometimes

The Nene is soft comments

are ridiculous

Mine was a joke.
Curry falls down, ref calls a foul

standard

He was stunned because the Nuggets set a screen and actually made contact with someone
Wasn't even a screen, he just fell down
Nene is not settling for the first shot.

He looks angry!

Now if he could make a FT :p

Nuggets need to learn how to flop (and make free throws)

No point

in flopping if you can make the free throws

Curry tonight cannot miss
Ty needs to stop passing after Curry flops
Nuggets all need to put on black socks and yellow shoes like wright.

Freak some people out.

Wow...what is going on?

The D is not as bad as the Warriors shooting is making it look

Someone needs to send Curry to the floor.

Hard defense is lost in Denver.

Now GK will go small
'er
i see that thing you did there
Good one
Pass interference
So the Warriors get the ball

at the spot of the foul, and get a first down?

Blocked shots: GS 13 Den 0
Close game between CU and AZ
sigh...clear path
I so wanted AAA to hit that 2nd shot.
Blocked shot is blocked :(
Yeah but two in a row would have been good for him.

Even though I want to trade him immediately following this game.

Clearpath

Bullshit call

someone is screaming

TERRIBLE CALL!!!!!

8 point swing...
Nene beat him down for that rebound
Warriors shooting 50% from 3pt land.

And it’s not all the defense. Seems like every team is hot against us :p

They've got some knockdown shooters

Not our week isn’t it….

now we're jacking up quick shots

So awful

Poor form Warriors poor form Curry
Not sure why they haven't put him on his ass yet

Soft ass Nuggets.

Does it seem like the Nuggets get the ball stripped cleanly more often than any team?
I'm not sure how many of those are all that clean
Nuggets bringing a knife to a gun fight

Trading 3s with Golden State is bullshit

AAA dodged a bullet there.
yup

Get the lead down, Denver.

Thats at least one bad call in our favor. One of 200
Spellcheck getting aggressive.

Glad to see him stepping up.

Anyone else holding their breath on Ty's layup?
Ty should be happy

He’s guarding someone taller than him

Fabulous defense, Nuggs.
damn! Its the shoes
K2 and Al standing in the lane, while one of the best

3pt shooters in the league stands alone uncovered.

Still only down by 11....
We were doing better when we were getting offensive boards

Where is Faried!

Getting his booster shots?
He needs to get some missed shots
LOL a charge on Ty? LOLREF
No, you see

Ty’s like a streamroller. Nothing can stand in his way.

just got in

the first thing I see is GS hit a wide open 3. Least surprising thing ever.

Oh

Wait til you see their 3-point shooting percentage.

You will be even more unsurprised.

Spoiler, they're 10/19!
What happened to this team?
I think next game,

I’m gonna take a bb gun to the game and shoot all the floppers. God flopping has made the game almost unwatchable.

All those PSA from Homeland security have me brainwashed

I have to report you.

Just take everything out of your pockets and step forward please.
10-19 on 3s

we will be a bottom-third team until we get our 3-point defense sorted out.

Stop the guy wearing the gold shoes!
Well this quarter has been fun
If by fun you mean misery
Notice how the Warriors are showing strong on a PnR?

Notice how we aren’t?

if we lose we will have a worrse record than the lakers ugghhh
getting spanked by the warriors at home

maybe this is rock bottom?

Someone needs an intervention
Maybe getting

spanked is not a deterrent in the Nuggets case….

Karl has to go...

Dude looks like he’s shell shocked

Hey Fly, I'll be that Hornets game is looking pretty good now huh?
No

I mean, at least tonight I didn’t have high expectations.

I kinda don’t care any more. I’m jaded. Faded.

But I’m tuning in, cos I will always be a Nuggets fan.

Warriors have also finally figured out we can't shoot.

Packing the lane…no more drives. We look pathetic on Defense, and have stopped moving on offense

This offense is just horrific

WHAT HAPPENED

No one ever said athletes were smart

Look, guys. They are shooting near 50 % from beyond the arc, so make sure you are marking your man and rotating.

Oi vay.

I want to say Golden State is playing sound basketball tonight

But they actually suck. So what does that mean?

How is that not a blocking foul when the player moves below Ty while he's in the air?
I do not understand how we can suddenly become one of the worst defensive teams
A lot of it is mental.

We’re in a funk, and it makes it harder to make that little extra effort. Your body just doesn’t seem to respond as quickly, and you are more apt to settle – both on offense and defense.

THIS THIS THIS
Fucking pathetic

What a fucking worthless, dickless team we have here. Falls on George Karl and Masai

Wait what? How is Masai to blame?
All the money is gone and it was wasted on guys who can't ball.
Blame lies with everyone

Karl for not getting the team to focus, Masai for building this team…

Uh. Weren't we all excited about how this team was built

like 2 weeks ago?
Same players, just several are injured.

No, not me.
I'd say 95% of Stiffs were happy with our personnel.
Strangely, I agree with Kat

The players aren’t playing well, but I think a lot of that lies on GK. The players and Masai are not as to blame.

I think the players are playing poorly right now

but that doesn’t mean they are bad players.

that's on Karl
Tired and beaten up players is not necessarily on Karl.

Unless he’s beating them up with a whip.

Disagree

Should have been using the deep end of the bench and developed the rookies by playing them ever so often.

Look how much time Rudy has played tonight. He played 21 minutes straight in the first half. What has he done since? Kind of symbolic of our season.

Well I was asking how Masai figured into your comment.

Not saying anything about Karl FWIW

Wheels appeared to be coming off before the Gallo injury

People have us figured out, pack the lanes because we can’t shoot outside

I do agreed that teams have figured us out

And we lost a third of our guys…..

They've adjusted and we haven't

But we’ve also been bitten by the injury bug complicating things

Cat.

You are making sense tonight.

Don't do it. Don't even do it.
Just did.

I’m stopping this before it starts.

Honestly. What for?

Why do that?

LOL I'm not being snarky.

I gave you a compliment.

Back handed if I've ever heard

But if that’s what you intended …fine.

Strange complaint coming from you.

So I will take back my compliment, because you have gone back into crazy town.

sigh…..

This is like my mum and dad when I was little

Either one of them had to have the last word.

I’m still traumatized by it.

Talking, I mean.

Falls on Karl again

Masai gets blame for not giving us a player that can create a shot

He did.

He balled so hard his ankle hurtin’.

Gallo doesn't qualify?

Balled so hard his ankle hurtin’

Need more than Gallo and Harrington

That’s why Masai high tailed it to China to try to get Wilson Chandler back, he’s better at creating a shot then Gallinari

So he’s actually getting someone who creates their own shots?

Yup I give Masai for making a move

But what happens when Gallinari comes back?

We have two guys who create their shots?

Look I think if you wanna rag on Karl, have at it

but Masai has done a tremendous job…

really?

Wasn’t it just about two weeks ago we were praising Masai as the GM of the year? This team will get through this. We, and they, need to be patient.

Lawson looks tired.

He should not have played in Lithuania.

YAY THE WARRIORS ONLY LEAD BY 13

The ENTIRE team has looked totally gassed this entire month. Just awful. Nuggets need the All-Star break badly

Maybe George could give J-ham some meaningful minutes now and again

What’s the harm? The kid can shoot.

haha nice one
I know

What a concept. Developing rookies. Resting hurt/tired players.

Ty dribbles, everyone stands around and watches.
Fucking terribad call
Nene is playing pissed tonight.

I LIKE IT! Now if the rest of the team would just step up with him.

Denver backcourt: 13-39

That’s fucking shameful

Watching the warriors block a shot, steal the rebound and run the ball to the other end and jam it in.

That used to be a Nuggets move.

It's gotta start on D

We really need to step up on the defensive end.

Truth

This team’s offense is best when the defense is playing well/hard.

This is making me f**king depressed
Now we're reaching on D...not moving our feet, looking tired and frustrated
hey guys, was out of town for a week

didn’t watch tv or look at the internet. WTF happened?!

Injuries and poor coaching
The world is ending.

Should’ve bought a Chevy.

Advertising works
While you were gone Ty changed his name to Tyred

and other not so good things.

We became the Washington Generals
Nope

That’s still the Wizards.

Believe it or not

the Wizards are not the worst team in the league

That’s up for debate. But I will open a can of whoopass on anyone that says we’re one of them now.

I won't say that

The Hornets are pretty awful

C'mon guys we're only down 20
Warriors are playing the "no lay up" rule...

and it’s working.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had a shooter who could stretch the D?
That was killer

Nuggets actually playing great D, hand in face, etc, and they still hit the 3.

Is it just me or

does everybody shoot the lights out against us

Warriors = Murphy’s Law. Live by the 3, Die by it.

Living by it well tonight
OOO

I hope we sub in Julyan Stone at center!

im turning this off
holy crap

i hope this is a funk

It feels like every team we play is hitting everything recently.

almost like it doesn’t matter if we play D or not.

Watch Nene and only Nene

Then you will see why Masai is partially to blame in this mess.

....no way we can come back
Pathetic
Also,

I am pissed that whenever someone drives on us, they get a foul call, but when we drive, we need to get mugged before the refs even consider it. It’s not why we’re losing or playing bad, but is sure doesn’t help

why aren't they booing?
they all went home :p
Good point.

Maybe I’ll go to our next loss so I can boo.

Booing stinks

I might call for a trade or a firing but I will never boo the Nuggets

I'd boo you and heckle you if I could afford the seats.
And why are you posting.

COACH THE GAME!

I already coached today

I told the guys “If you just go out there and score more points than the other team you will win.” What more is there to say?

Booing for lack of effort

is different than booing the team.

It does sound the same, however.

Maybe they don't think booing their own team

effective?

I disagree

sometimes it’s deserved, and might shake them up.

I'm booing from Highlands Ranch

Their microphones must not be picking it up

I'm here in the Springs booing

Because they’ve seen worse?

I do remember the Bernie Bickerstaff era

Ugh.

It's hard to boo with tears tunning down your cheeks
CAN YOU HEAR THE FAT LADY SING
Three things i take away from this game

1. The refs still suck

2. The Nuggets are playing with no heart

3. Fire George Karl!

Faried and Stone have received almost no time in the 2nd half

You’re a stubborn, terrible coach, Karl.

Nope.

Faried is back in when the game is out of hand because clearly the lineup without him was working effectively.

If Udoh wasn't playing...

Nene would fall down for lack of having someone to hang onto.

Nene is the only player for the Nuggets who has shown any heart tonight
I agree. I was just joking in my "first" comment
Rudy played hard in the 1st half

but played too long without a rest.

How about more points and less heart if thats what it takes.
No defense...at all
I wonder when our next win is gonna be?
i predict

Nugs will finally get a win @ Pacers on Sat since a road game will get them into grit mode. They’ll use that as a little bit of encouragement to take it to the Suns, and then avenge themselves against the Griz & Mavs afterwards. That 4 game win streak will have them pumped up to destroy the Thunder next Sunday. “The Association” will have a great plot line of how the Nuggets went into this terrible funk, but found their way out and got back to their winning ways right into the playoffs.

That or they’ll win sometime in March.

Right now

I’ll take the latter

On the plus side

I can watch BBT to cheer me up…..

At this point

I think it’s becoming abundantly clear that this team is in a deep, deep funk…

more than that though, we should ask ourselves if George Karl is the right man to coach a young (ish) team. I think the answer is becoming very clear

BLASPHEMY

HE IS AN ALLTIME WINNER, JEFF.

I agree Jeff

I’ve been saying Karl needs to go everyday this week

Need a hard ass

Jerry Sloan please.

Don’t think he wants to take on the grind again.

Oh hell no

Not You

I'm getting to the point where I can't see what's going on and ignore it anymore

Karl can’t seem to motivate a ham sandwich…and this young team can’t seem to pull itself out of the funk.

I’m not sure George is capable of motivating/coaching a young team

Better be careful

you might be accused of panicking

Don't you mean where you CAN see what's going on and can't ignore it anymore?
where is

Todd Lichti when we need him?

on the bright side stifffs

strongest draft since 2003, coming up if this continues

I want Melo!
JR
But there is no JR in this draft?

:confused:

Fab Melo

and have him wear #15

Knicks fans wants you to have him too.

Fly was talking about Fab melo
There is Melo

And there is ’Melo.

Kind of off topic but I really like Beidrins haircut
Fresh Prince amirite?
When did we sign The Fresh Prince?
I've said it about past games,

but until the Nuggets show teams the ability to hit jump shots consistently, we’re going to continue to see the same thing. Teams sagging off and clogging the lane, giving no room ot drivers or cutters.

To continue....

right now, teams know that all the Nuggets can do is drive and run. They don’t have anyone on the team with a mid-range game. There is no one who consistently threatens the defense from deep. Earlier in the year, when we were winning, we would have players get hot from deep occasionally, and now we’re not. No team feels it necessary to guard us outside of the paint.

Agreed

Its painfully obvious we lack shooting. I think thats why masai and josh are saying we are still a few pieces away. We need a couple pure shooters to keep teams honest.

Ouch, Nuggets. Ouch.

We’re in free-fall mode. This team is out of confidence. With the Lakers and (likely) Rockets winning tonight, we’ll probably be nearing a slot outside of the top 8. Damn you, Denver.

Nuggets in the early season were a totally different team.

Not sure we could beat the Pistons right now.

That may have something to do with having all your guns in a knife fight.

I'm going to cry into my Gallinari jersey
J-Ham

getting some run

Mark Jackson

rookie coach, Kicked Ass

I think it might have something to do with

Steph Curry being completely unconscious. Did you see that shot chart? Guy only attempted one layup and only missed 4 times all night

It's like we keep running into these players

that go unconscious with us. Why? It’s the most bizarre thing

To me that would under the title of

being prepared. and knowing who can hurt you

the coaches Job
I don't think that's the case for Curry.

He just shot lights out all night – no matter what D was played on him. But I do agree you need to be prepared for player’s tendencies and strength

But even unexpected players have done that too.
come on j-ham

show karl why people said you were the best scorer in the draft

memo to karl: time to try a different strategy

trying to run teams out of the building is not working anymore!

I'm in the chocolate phase of despair
Didn't get a chance to watch the game tonight.

Only had the ESPN score alerts after each quarter. What happened?!

Lets just say the warriors think its garbage time now.

and we thought it all night long.

Crazy good shooting from GS

Crazy bad defense from Nuggets.

Blah blah blah.

collapse on D in the third, combined with the inability to make even a layup.

and the Warriors as a team becoming unable to miss…at all

These guys are too tired. They need more rest than the schedule can give them.

Popovich would just give his guys a night off as needed. Why won’t karl do that?

i take it you have something against karl?
I think it was a question not a statement

But yeah, I’m not a fan.

Because it's George Karl

the dude is a terrible strategist

AAA

the high scorer for nuggs tonight!

Six games in eight days against some pretty good squads,

and how many starters missed games in that stretch. We all knew that the schedule was not in our favor in Feb. even with a full compliment of players, much less with all the injuries Am I concerned…sure but do I think we are done…Hell no!

I'm with you

Grumpy about this funk.

But it’s a long season.

I like the way you think.

Can you put that on your Optimism Warrior card and have it laminated?

What the heck was that ??
dont't bail him out!
Hey George Karl

Look at how much heart and energy the rookies are playing with out there.

What? You can’t find minutes for them? They aren’t fully developed? You like 7-8 man rotations? okay.

15-12

Still 3 games over .500!

Ugh.

Karl should take note about how the Rookies are playing with a fire under their nuts

Time to bench some starters and play these rookies

Did you notice how Stone actually is running the ball up on every chance?
I'm done with Dre after this game

Dude stops the ball wayyyy too much, time to go young

So you don't like Karl's coaching

and Dre is basically the floor coach…..

I

We are at the point where it doesn't really make sense that George is the coach.
That was really a comment about Dre
Yeah but you keep defending the guy

I think its beyond that now.

I haven't defended Karl

I say very little to nothing about Karl.

So whats your stance then?

Keep George or fire him?

I have no stance.
Hah!
I think we should keep him
For parts?
A coaching change, midseason

Won’t fix Gallo’s ankle. Or Moz’s.

It won’t make Nene a dunker. It won’t make Ty taller. It won’t make Andre less grumpy. What’s the point?

Not running the heck out of who we currently have

So they don’t get injured too. Crazy I know.

Seriously. I don't.

I can see reasons for keeping him and I can see reasons for firing him.

I don’t really see that making a coaching change at this point of the season will change anything and might make things worse. Perhaps in the offseason.

i have a stance.

unless you’re locked into something better, there’s no point in firing GK. contrary to popular belief, there ARE worse coaches out there.

I'd hire Jeff Bzdelik
Why not? We're losing anyway

I thought playing time was earned on this team.

That's just crazy talk
plz no roasting of nuts

bad image

I wonder what Reggie Evans' opinion would be on this matter
Reggie likes his cookies warm
GK will take credit for injecting

The rookies in at the right time and cutting the lead down.

It's a repeat of the Houston game.

Close game despite the fact that we never really got a run started.

What does that tell you? Not that the players suck but that the strategy is wrong.

what is GK going to draw up now?
speaking of hamilton being a talennted scorer....
UNDERDEVELOPED ROOKIES DESERVE NOTHING BUT GARBAGE TIME
Especially the tall ones.
sorry for my insolence kevin karl or as you are known by your initials kkk
Foul

Put in Melo and Durant

lol at this becoming a close game :p
panic mode

engaged. count me into the fire gk team. the players are good, need a fresh outlook

i'm in the draft andre drummon or anthony davis team

dunno where that falls

Don't fire GK till we get a lotto pick

And then bounce him out of this fucking town.

Who wants to go boxing?

I have some gloves and headgear. Would really be therapeutic to toss a few punches.

first 5 game losing streak since '03?
why is it every team we play shoots light out from the 3pt line?
See the thread above started by Russscot
ok now we've got plenty of drama for our show "the association"

let’s go on a 10 game winning streak now

see above (somewhere)

but I agree that it’s gonna build the show great. i only predict a 4 streak into a fifth win vs OKC though.

I'm now trolling the Denver Nuggets twitter account
denvernuggets Denver Nuggets
Karl coaching this game to the end. He’s going to use his last timeout down 8 with 20.7 seconds left. #neversaydie

My response:

@denvernuggets Karl’s coaching is why we are losing. The rookies he never plays didn’t say die.
On the plus side, Afflalo scored 26

and showed at least a little fight.

True but every good AAA game is followed by 5 bad ones

I’ll wait for the Pacers game to get excited for him.

AAA slowly

getting himself back. slowly.

Maybe he's getting it together at long last
Wow such a surprising free fall

The Magic Curse is a really bad one. I want the lottery rather than this bs.
Get some new blood, Karl’s run and gun scheme is getting old.
The only thing I can think of is this is some kind of ploy for the association???? This really makes no sense even with the injuries.

The run and gun probley caused most of the injuries
Lockout shortened season

compressing a ridiculous amount of games into a short period of time with no recovery time between games is more likely

maybe AAA or Nene,

but both Gallo and Moz had ankle rolls that had nothing to do with fatigue/tired adjustments

7-8 man rotations coupled with

Weight training, practice, and travel.

It was only a matter of time till players started dropping like flies.

Needs

We need Gallo

Mozgov

Brewer

Chandler

The team that is losing games since Moz went down with us having a lead vs lakers, are the denver nuggets not THE Denver Nuggets

I dont like GK but he has nothing to do with this downturn

Yes he does

Bad rotations/refusal to develop rookies = tired bodies and injuries
Not motivating the team.
etc.

Funny but when we had a healthy squad and

George was still a bad coach, we were still 15 – 6. His stupid coaching didnt hurt us that much.

How George coaches is how he played Rudy tonight

Rudy came out with fire tonight going 4/5.
Karl thinks “hey, he’s killing it…I’ll keep him out there.”
Karl plays Rudy for 21 minutes straight.
Rudy has an overall crappy game cause he is too worn out.

George doesn’t think a few steps ahead, he thinks in the moment. George would be a horrid chess player.

maybe Kev but

no coach turns bad players into good ones. As presently constituted, we have little talent.

That's ridiculous

We have a good core of players. We have a bad coach that wore them out and can’t motivate them over the hump. And before you say that’s on the players, it is and isn’t. A coach’s job is the get the best from his players and clearly George is not doing that because instead of adapting, instead of thinking a few steps ahead, he is clinging to his tired, stubborn habits.

Here's the thing

At some point, at the professional level, players must motivate themselves. It’s part of what they get paid millions of dollars to do. This isn’t college or high school. IMO the head coach is responsible for play calling, rotations and playing time.

Bet ya think poor people can just "pull themselves up" by their bootstraps, too.

Yes, it is on the players to be mentally tough. I’m actually I saw AAA get so upset tonight that he played with the fire and resolve he had last year.

But when you’re play calling is terrible, your rotations and line ups make little sense, and you don’t make playing time for the energetic, healthy, give it all I got guys, then how exactly do we win?

ya have to have bootstraps to pull yourself up by them
I agree. Karl is Karl, I will always have issues with some of his decisions but

he is the same coach that believes in our players and got us off to a hot start. Now we have injuries and we aren’t as deep as we were a week ago. Missing 2 starters and 3 out of our first 8 in the rotation has more to do with our losses in the past week than George does.

Agreed NC, I dont like Karl but

you cannot win with just desire. You have to have the forces too

That lose puts us 9th in the west.

Weren’t we 2nd just a week ago? Just fucking terrible.

i noticed defenders are playing lawson a step back or two,

makes it so he can’t drive past and every team knows he can’t shoot. Takes away nuggets penetration game, and with no other options on offense (please hurry back Gallo) teams crowd paint or play zone…new strategy time George

Not just on Ty, but on all our perimeter players.

We have no one who threatens the defense consistently from outside the paint. Maybe Hamilton could be, or if AAA is truly coming out of his funk, or if Rudy becomes consistent. Right now, however, no team we play respects our outside shooting. They pack the lane because that’s the only place we can score. We can’t even make ft’s consistently right now.

Gallo?
He's good outside and inside.

(this is not a Gallo joke)

Why not?

You have something against Gallo jokes? Huh? Do you?

I just wanted to make it clear
Gallo has been inconsistent at best this year,

and besides, we don’t have him right now :p (I know you know this)

Maybe I read your comment wrong

I thought you were saying overall for the season. My bad

I think the NBA has the "book" on the Nuggets now

so to speak. Sag off the outside players and clog the lane. The Nuggets will get frustrated and start chucking up a bunch of off balance 3’s, where they are shooting as a team like negative a billion percent.

problem is AAA is a spot up shooter
It's stupid to put in fresh legs and hungry players

when you can keep whipping the same tired old horses

The thing with firing Karl, or making a coaching change right now,

is that the team already doesn’t get any practice time, what with the ridiculous schedule this year. When is, say, Sloan going to get the opportunity to install his stuff? When is any coach going to be able to change the way we play significantly? If we were to make a change, we could look to having even more ugly games, or, alternatively, have the new coach ride out the season with Karl’s system. I’m not sure that a change would truly be a positive step.

Maybe a different coach would stop the run run run crap

and play some younger less tired guys.

Maybe prevent injuries that extend into next season.

This team needs to run.

We don’t have the shooters to run a “conventional” offense, as this past week has shown. If we make a change in style, we might as well blow it up and bring in a new set of players.

Agree

but I don’t think you can have two guards with one running it up the floor and the other walking it up.

Running isn't the problem
defense is obviously the problem, 37 points in the 3rd quarter?

no effort, no willingness to win, no emotions, dont care

hate to say it this season was lost when gallo went down

might as well gt on way with new coach and strategies

The season isn't over. Not nearly
only 27 games into this season, were fine every team faces adversity
when we are getting beat by golden state at home..

and we we win only 2 more games this month and possibly 7 or 8 next month…its saf to say nuggets are finished

Welp I think it's much too early to make that pronouncement.
It isn't too early to say that we're in trouble though imo.
In trouble yes, finished not yet.
A funk doesn't mean Denver is a lottery team

Just like that 6-0 winning streak in January didn’t make Denver a championship team.

Denver is a good team playing bad basketball.

I’d advise you all against panicking, but you aren’t going to do that.

march isnt as tough as february, its safe to say your clueless
Agreed

It’s not nearly over. But this is as bad as I remember Denver playing since 2002. They need to fix it and soon, or they are headed for the lotto.

no, it started with Moz, then it accelerated with various injuries to AAA, Nene - The Gallo

injury was the coup de gras (sp?). I see little chance that we survive Feb

we might beat phoenix next week

and possibly minnesota but coming off a b2b…i doubt it

yeah but yur saying that we might win a few games

every team wins a few games but I reckon we’ll lose a whole bushel. Hope I’m wrong.

play jordan hamilton more, he might be the best answer but he can shoot

corey brewer from twitter “Man I hate watching my guys struggle keep your heads up nuggets we gonna be fine we just gotta keep working and get healthy.”

If we get healthy and together

we’ll be good in March and April but it might be too late for us to secure a playoff spot much less a good seed

1-9 to finish feb

march we might break even with gallo

agreee with March but

I healthy, I dont see why we dont become a force again

if healthy...i agree nuggets might squeeze in with .500 or barely sub .500 record but probably not
obviously a troll
NK, Seems like you dont have a high opinion of Nugs

Healthy or injured. Thats OK, but you might not have caught what Nugs have done when healthy since Gallo trade

your a knick fan right?
nope been watching nuggs since they drafted mutombo

and they had marcus liberty and cadillac anderson. not a big karl fan though. I call it as i see it. just my opinion. if that makes me a troll then rock on!

Did you know that the nuggets have a

player development coordinator named Patrick Mutumbo? He is not related to Dikembe but he was an excellent ball player himself. He played for Metro State and won lots of awards.

Just an interesting bit of info for you.

I didnt call you a troll, and glad to have you on board

but if you seem negative even when/if we get healthy, it does read a little like what Knick fans have posted here.

So you are legit, great, but there have been cases of stalking Knick fans here who betray selves via overly negative comments

FYI, my recent postings have been pessimistic but only because I believe that our injuries could completely derail season

I can solve all of Denver's problems with one trade

I am a life long Knicks fan. I love the Nuggets also (mostly because you have a few of my favorite Knicks). We will gladly trade you Melo for Gallo/Chandler and a first round pick. :-)

lol

This has been a good week for Knick fans I imagine. Lin tearing it up, of all people.

wouldnt give you gallo for Melo

straight up. But if you want to talk a bout Lin …

Lawson dissapointed me, karl asks him to be the stud, we get 11 points
True

I was unable to watch the game. I expected Ty to step up points-wise. What’s wrong? Looks to be passing better though…Was it his outside shot?

I think hes just tired
Tonight was game 50 something for Ty
Read above.

I think Lawson needs to spend the entire off season (because he won’t get a chance before then) shooting thousands of 10-15ft pull-up jumpers a day. Players will continue to back off him until he shows he can hit them consistently

teams have the book on how to stop him

play him back, stop his penetration make him pass out to any number of guys that can’t shoot or penetrate…

Henceforth:

Joking BANNED on Denver Stiffs. Since no one knows if / when anyone is joking or being sarcastic.

Is this a joke?
I have no power

So, I can’t enforce anything.

But it’s no joke. Because, this is very important, if you have to explain it, it isn’t funny.

Fly, I appreciate your humor.

Continue.

YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS??!
I'm always serious.

This is serious business.

No it's seriaz biznezz
I understand everyone is frustrated

If everyone is civil I will allow a lively conversation. Joking is always allowed. It’s print so sometimes you have to explain yourself. Nature of the beast

Blow it up! Blow it up!

I got a match…

At least Wayne's World is on

Put me in a better mood

Does anybody see a trade soon? they were obviously shopping birdman
Certainly

There will be a move.

did you read or hear this?

or are you just assuming the DNPs are evidence that we are shopping him

Well he plays good one game the other night vs houston, then starts vs dallas

doesnt play tonight…

Something minor

Team isn’t likely to make a major trade imo. They’d try to dump birdman if they could, but it’s unlikely. Could trade Al I guess, if there was a team interested. Both guys brought in under a previous GM anyways. Doubt there’s any attachment to either.

this is sad

i was stoked about moving from HNL to DEN this spring so I could go watch a playoff game in the Can… now it looks like we might not make the post season. i hope this is just a funk and not an irreversible change.

We will make the postseason

Dead serious.

Who do you predict we will face in round one?
I have nothing to back this up

but I see the Lakers

that would suck

ty gets owned by d.fish consistently, god i cringed just typing that

uh ty owns d fish
i think the talent is there

it’s the execution that is sucking right now. no passion either.

I know it looks bleak right now

A bad stretch can screw things up for good teams.

And right now, the Nuggets are screwing themselves out of home court in the first round.

But there is a lot more screwing up that needs to happen before they screw themselves out of the playoffs entirely.

Never thought id say this, but we need brewer more than ever right now

im not a huge fan of his but hes better than anyone else we have been starting at SF

No doubt
Im hoping hes back saturday for indiana! j ham needs to play more too
Don't worry it WILL get better!

This was a brutal stretch of the schedule from both a quality of opponent perspective and lack of rest. The Nuggets are dead tired, Gallo is out, and several other players are either playing hurt or have been in and out of the line up. We just have to hope we to hang in there until the all star break, Then everyone will get healthy and be rested and we’ll make another run!

1 and 9 in feb,

8 – 8 in march, and 8 and 6 in april

in short nuggets end up with 32-34 overall record
missing playoffs by 2 games to rockets for 8th seed.

Will you come back if you are incorrect and we make the playoffs?
i hope i am wrong!!!

i will eat crow if i am wrong and happily admit it

Yes but will come back and eat the crow with us?
only if its fried
I think you guys are being too humorous

Cut it out willya!

Well, broiled crow is healthier...but hey whatever works.
Were you also predicting the Nuggets would win a title after our 6-game winning streak?

In other words, silly prediction is silly. A 10-day funk =/= 2 more months of said funk.

no but i predicted a 6-9 feb during that winning streak

wow was i being generous!

positives from tonight's game

1. Kenneth Faried finally had 10 rebounds, and i liked his defensive energy…he needs more time but I think he will be really good next season
2. AAA was glad to see him get a little fiery. The fact he was guarding 6’10", 245 pound Udoh in the paint when things got chippy (speaks volumes of Karl’s undersized line-ups) is another subject. But AAA plays better mad and it was nice to see him shoot with some confidence.
3. J ham has a nice looking 3 ball. Could he be the shooter we need with Gallo out?

im hoping j ham is that shooter, no pt though
after a few more loses

perhaps Karl will roll the dice with J-ham and see what the kid can do

It can't be anymore worse than how the teams shooting lately, he made 2 3's didnt he?
During the Rockets game

immediately after finding out the results of Gallo’s x-rays I threw out the suggestion of a trade and got cyberly yelled at by many of you suggesting there will be a trade. What’s changed? That we’re losing without our best player and budding center?

DOOD??!!! YOU WANT A TRADE?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IT's clear the tight rotations are hurtng the team now..

The Nuggs are dinged up, tired, dead legs, mentally out of it. Some of us have been saying that George needs to go way deep down his bench and lighten up the minutes for the regulars. This team just looks dead tired, mentally and physically. Time loosen the rotations and give the young guns some run. Dre, Nene, Al, Ty and AAA need some down time.

that b2b2b2 is just killing them

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